seroiusly i dont like george bush. i absolutely hate him. but he did the right thing. what would u do if 40,000 people just died a slow and painful death and u lost 2 landmark buildings. also there are other reason that bush did what he did. war fuels economy. with war may come death destruction and evil. but it also comes with amazing military advancements and the promise of more jobs.
Bush knew about the attack and didnt do anything so he could declare war and move his economy along. but 1 thing back fired the UN didnt help this stopped a world war and incredable progress inthe economy. these still a major boom but nothin compare to a full fledged world war. and for a fact only somethin like 4000 soldiers have died. in ww2 and ww1 nearly 60,000,000 million people died. and i say thats good. thank god for advanceing technology.
also military pilot are given drugs that supress feelings like fear and concience. so that the pilot can kill without haveing to think of the negative concequences. this may be sad but its o so true.
if this may offend u im srry. and to any sons or daughters that may have a relative or loved 1 in the war i am srry if this offended u.
KeeSe Wrote:i know :9
but i'll tell you what IS related to george bush... a monkey
of course he is related to a monkey...we all are (zing!). anyways, no matter how much u absolutely hate George Bush, u gotta like the way he responded to 9/11, when he visited Ground Zero and gave his speech, it was probably one of his high points of his presidential career.
Maniac Wrote:Suddam was basicly a Hitler-Like dictator. He killed untold numbers of his own people. He tested his own **** chemical weapons on them. He was developing (researching) missles that were expected to have been completed around 2010. By then he would have had the ability to lauch globally. But even if you took all the weapons of mass destruction, the chemical weapons, the research, and set that aside he was still a force that needed to be reckoned with sooner or later.
Some toughts..
Ok perhaps Saddam was developeing nukes, i dont know that for a fact,, anyway to me this raises the question who should we trust with nukes,, i mean what stops americans from launching nukes.
When watching the news from different countrys everyone has different versions of whats going on,, same when talking to irquis, Americans and people from other countrys,, you get different versions and everyone claims to be right. Does this mean everyones lying.
maniac u ****ing reatard! u have any proof? or are u jus telling us what u heard from ure dumb *** president? exactly! saddam? hitler like? ROFL? dont exaggerate in a debate... ive taken debate for 3 years and its the dumbest thing to do. u dont think bush killed as many people as saddam by now? he started a war for himself and his buddies, pinned it on the glory of america, and BAM, alkl u mother****ers believe him and follow his lead!
lol stfu u fking queer. ure so DUMB! omg... i dont even wanna debate wit u. may god save u and ure fking dumbass country.... oh, by the way.. u knw when bush went to see the pope, and the pope told him off for what he did in iraq? and then bush gives him a fking medal? all u pro-bush or pro-war americans arent really allowed to be religious anymore... unless u wanna be hippocrites... (jus by the way)
so anyways, back to maniac.... listen kid... go get stoned or something... go back to ure little cottage in the middle of the woods and tell ureself u live in a great country with a great leader who is cleansing the world from its "bad guys". shit if i had to chose, i'd have all u americans die b4 saddam or Laden
LordOsiris>Warning>Please don't try to turn a political debate into a personal vendetta. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Your language is uncalled for, and your etiquette is non-existant.
lord_osiris Wrote:lol stfu u fking queer. ure so DUMB! omg... i dont even wanna debate wit u. may god save u and ure fking dumbass country.... oh, by the way.. u knw when bush went to see the pope, and the pope told him off for what he did in iraq? and then bush gives him a fking medal? all u pro-bush or pro-war americans arent really allowed to be religious anymore... unless u wanna be hippocrites... (jus by the way)
so anyways, back to maniac.... listen kid... go get stoned or something... go back to ure little cottage in the middle of the woods and tell ureself u live in a great country with a great leader who is cleansing the world from its "bad guys". shit if i had to chose, i'd have all u americans die b4 saddam or Laden
lord_osiris Wrote:maniac u ****ing reatard! u have any proof? or are u jus telling us what u heard from ure dumb *** president? exactly! saddam? hitler like? ROFL? dont exaggerate in a debate... ive taken debate for 3 years and its the dumbest thing to do. u dont think bush killed as many people as saddam by now? he started a war for himself and his buddies, pinned it on the glory of america, and BAM, alkl u mother****ers believe him and follow his lead!
There is a difference between a proper debate and a third world debate.
lord_osiris Wrote:-_- i was silenced... sry allisurd.. guess everyone is entitled to an opinion... but i cant say what i think. my bad
Good, Stay that way...
Spikes Wrote:Maniac i would love to hear your responce to my previous posts. Does it raise any toughts.
Give me a second...
Spikes Wrote:Some toughts..
Ok perhaps Saddam was developeing nukes, i dont know that for a fact,, anyway to me this raises the question who should we trust with nukes,, i mean what stops americans from launching nukes.
When watching the news from different countrys everyone has different versions of whats going on,, same when talking to irquis, Americans and people from other countrys,, you get different versions and everyone claims to be right. Does this mean everyones lying.
Difference is that in a Democracy there is not just one person with their hand on the button, and a majority vote is required. In a Dictatorship there is one and only one person with their hand on the button, and there are no systems of control.
No one is really lieing. The different regions just interpret things differently.
Maniac Wrote:Good, Stay that way...
Give me a second...
Difference is that in a Democracy there is not just one person with their hand on the button, and a majority vote is required. In a Dictatorship there is one and only one person with their hand on the button, and there are no systems of control.
No one is really lieing. The different regions just interpret things differently.
Ok good point but is Democracy relay so mush better,, some people think othervise. Personally i dont know propably coz i always lived under Democracy myselfe.
Some people say Bush is acting like a dictator,, I dont think so but I dont have enough facts to say its not true,,, Anyway who is Bush realy, al iv seen is hes public persona and im shore thats not the real Bush,,, same Goes for Saddam
About lieing,, matemathically thinking: sense versions are completly the opposite the truth equals nothing, meaning there is no truth,, and everything should be questioned.
Spikes Wrote:Ok good point but is Democracy relay so mush better,, some people think othervise. Personally i dont know propably coz i always lived under Democracy myselfe.
Some people say Bush is acting like a dictator,, I dont think so but I dont have enough facts to say its not true,,, Anyway who is Bush realy, al iv seen is hes public persona and im shore thats not the real Bush,,, same Goes for Saddam
About lieing,, matemathically thinking: sense versions are completly the opposite the truth equals nothing, meaning there is no truth,, and everything should be questioned.
Democracy is, because there are systems of control. One system keeps the other in check. Bush is not doing everything alone he has other systems behind him keeping him in line. If congress said we don't want you to go to war they would have stepped in, and ensured it. Same with the Supreme Court they keep everything in line. Sure Bush is a little slow, but he knows that he is doing, but so does Suddam he tests weapons on his own citizens. Attempted 2 different invasions, both failures.
Saddam a Hitler like dictator? Yes. He gased his own people to test chemical weapons and chose his target based on the religion of the region. Comparing Bush to him? WTF, you must not know much about Saddam and how many people he executed DAILY, not mention he would participate in the executions at times.
Bush going in for personal reasons? It was personal for every American who gives a shit, Saddam was happy about 9-11. He supported Al Quida (not sure on spelling)
Our soldiers not trained enough? I'm not sure I've ever done this before but **** for saying that. My step brother is a military police officer stationed in Iraq and I know for a fact that they are very well trained. I don't remember the exact statistics but when the war started for every American that was kill like 9 or so Iraqi soldiers were killed. That's a good kill ratio if you ask me. And friendly fire is always going to happen in war. The rate of death in this war is a lot lower than any other war we have been in so be greatful and stop complaining. As for the Canadians, we're only human and mistakes happen and unfortunately that mistake costed lives and we can only apologize so many times. He wasn't prosecuted cause it wasn't on purpose and he must now live with the fact that he killed people who were trying to help his own cause.
Clinton, Clinton's economy was good cause he picked up where Bush senior left off and after Clinton left office the economy went to hell because he had passed bills to lower the national debt (making him look good) but little did everyone know that we are paying for those bills now so it looks like Bush's fault.
And democrcy, well considering we are the most powerful nation on the planet...I think the results speak for themselves.
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bush did not hurt this economy clinton did. and the bottom line is kerry should not be elected. not only is he a hippie ****** but his commanding officer announced that all his war hero crap was all bull **** and he never even saw real combat. kerry bieng elected would be horrible. do you really want a president who goes frequently to war protest rallies, goes to vietnam for a little while pulls some dude out of a river comes back and throws his purple hearts off a bridge at another war protest rally? our country would be more safe painting giant targets on all our landmarks and important buildings and writing "Bomb Here" under it.
comparing bush to saddam is insane. saddam is just as bad as hitler. not onyl did he execute people daily but his sons would pick a 12-13 year old girl, rape them, and throw them away.
yea, i agree with the people above have said, i cannot see a way that Saddam could be compared to Bush. If they were comparable, then Bush wouldn't have tried to catch Saddam.
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on a different note, kerry better watch out how much Botox he uses, or he might start to look like this: (nothing like a little Photoshop editing, eh?)
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