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Most of those provisional ballots were going to be counted, but Kerry conceded for the sole purpose to help reunite the nation, instead of having it split like it was in 2000. But since nobody knew about this story yet, everyone thought Bush was gaining an edge over Kerry, hence, Kerry conceded. I'm pretty sure many of Bush's votes were artificial. If not, most of those provisional ballots were going to Kerry anyway. According to many past provisional ballots, they usually go democratic. But we will never know now, will we?
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Well, it actually is hard to get 95% of the votes. I actually think Kerry did the right thing by conceding, not saying Bush is better, but I think he realized that it would of been kind of risky to go for it. I mean, 152,000/160,000 votes for Kerry is taking a risk isn't it?
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Yes that is a big risk. But you never know until you try 
I just hope this "finding" can get around to enough people where the media won't be able to supress it anymore.
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Errr, if it's actually proven to be true, Kerry still has 86 days or so.
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hmm...although im not a citizen or US or anywhere near..[i stay in singapore lol]
I still prefer bush...(no flaming guys!)...kerry's face is very "guai lan"...what we used in singapore to say someone very...very...erm.."idiot"....i still prefer bush mature face...rather than kerry's "guai lan" face...
I still prefer a president which uses violence to solve problems lol...
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A|fzZz Wrote:hmm...although im not a citizen or US or anywhere near..[i stay in singapore lol]
I still prefer bush...(no flaming guys!)...kerry's face is very "guai lan"...what we used in singapore to say someone very...very...erm.."idiot"....i still prefer bush mature face...rather than kerry's "guai lan" face...
I still prefer a president which uses violence to solve problems lol...
whats it matter about there face lol i don't care 4 bush at all if u like them fighting and war u go fight 4 us lol 
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A|fzZz Wrote:hmm...although im not a citizen or US or anywhere near..[i stay in singapore lol]
I still prefer bush...(no flaming guys!)...kerry's face is very "guai lan"...what we used in singapore to say someone very...very...erm.."idiot"....i still prefer bush mature face...rather than kerry's "guai lan" face...
I still prefer a president which uses violence to solve problems lol...
The sad thing is, about 50% of American voters vote their president not on the issues they stand for, but their looks and personalities. It is really a sad thing, but hey, were Americans.
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Quote:Did u hear that msg Asomobenladin had saying if Bush won the election he would attack the USA again?
think about it this way. If osama wants bush out he must be doing something right.
and i don't know what news stations you watch nubli but just about every station ive seen were huge kerry supporters. all they talked about was kerry and almost all the ads on the station were for kerry. In a very large majority of the polls before the election bush was on top.
Bush won the popular vote as well as the electoral vote so obviously he didnt cheat.
of course this isnt a surprise to me I knew right away when bush won every democrat and their brother would start accusing him of cheating. I live in a town that is extremely democratic and i hear bullshit accusations like this all the time.
Its like when they started saying Bush wore a wire at the debates. It's just stupid. Why can't anyone ever just admit that he won. There is always an bs excuse when a Republican representative does something good. Seriously, get a life. bush won. deal with it.
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UPDATE:
Kerry still has a chance to win even though he conceded defeat! It turns out that there is a good 160,000 provisionals left to be counted in a certain county in Ohio. Kerry would need some 130,000 of those to win Ohio. Is it likely? No. But, that county is very democratic, so theres a very good chance that once those are counted and the Electoral College thingy is held in December, we could very well see a new president! This makes me really happy
4sylum the stations I refer to are Fox (duh!), abc, cnn, nbc, and possibly a few others. All the big name companies heavily support Republicans.
4sylum Wrote:think about it this way. If osama wants bush out he must be doing something right.
and i don't know what news stations you watch nubli but just about every station ive seen were huge kerry supporters. all they talked about was kerry and almost all the ads on the station were for kerry. In a very large majority of the polls before the election bush was on top.
Bush won the popular vote as well as the electoral vote so obviously he didnt cheat.
of course this isnt a surprise to me I knew right away when bush won every democrat and their brother would start accusing him of cheating. I live in a town that is extremely democratic and i hear bullshit accusations like this all the time.
Its like when they started saying Bush wore a wire at the debates. It's just stupid. Why can't anyone ever just admit that he won. There is always an bs excuse when a Republican representative does something good. Seriously, get a life. bush won. deal with it.
It's easily conceivable that Bush may have cheated. Just because he won the popular vote doesn't mean squat.
Most of these accusations are not bullshit.
And that thing about Bush at the debate with the wire, it was true. Yet the media supressed it. The story got out but was basically "forgotten" quicker than it was aroused.
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hmm..i thought the new president is selected lol...
aww...bush buck up man!
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A|fzZz Wrote:hmm..i thought the new president is selected lol...
aww...bush buck up man!
The election is held in November, but the new president isnt sworn in until January of the following year. So January 20something 2005 is when the new president will be initiated.
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oh...well...i dunno bout these..i dun live there...
go bush go...go bush go!!!!
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N u b l i Wrote:The election is held in November, but the new president isnt sworn in until January of the following year. So January 20something 2005 is when the new president will be initiated. Offical Presidential Inauguration Day: January 1st 2005.
And to Nubli: According to your original post, your sources are not convincing. And to say the 5 mainstream news channels are Republican is just misleading all on its own. It's common knowledge that media is very very liberal. I'm done now, you guys are allowed to scratch your heads and continue to wonder just how you lost..
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The evidence just doesn't sound all that convincing, I don't buy it. 
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this is the first time ive heard of a conservative bias in EVERY major news organization. Isnt it actually the other way around? (excluding Fox) Do people really believe these massive conspiracy theories and collaboration between grossly different industries? Was there even a way for bush to legitmately win? I think you would have cried foul on any victory. I read your article and it seems a bit rash to instantly declare that massive fraud occured based simply on exit poll results and on "hard evidence" from FOIA requests. They say themselves they just launched some of the largest in history; are we supposed to forget the fact there is no way to analyze that much information in only 2 days? what exactly are they basing there claims on? Have they already performed detailed statitistical analysis of information they in all likelihood dont even have yet. Im afraid the logic has too many gaping holes to be reliable. I would never cite this site in a serious academic situation; so why should I lend to credibilty now?
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Because when people are afraid of the unknown, such as the future with President Bush, they get scared and make up crazy stories to explain what they don't understand.
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Actually a lot of the public poles were pretty close but still off in the Southeast. they had bush at like 67% and kerry at like 31% and in the end it was sumthing like 56% Bush and 43% Kerry. Ill say more but i gtg lol.
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"160,000 provisionals left to be counted in a certain county"
Man, I am originally from Ohio.......which county is this? I do believe that was the total amount for the entire state, but anyhow, folks from Ohio have lost over 200,000 jobs since Bush took office.... But guess what.....they still voted for him again versus the uncertain wish-wash of Mr Kerry. Better 200K without jobs then the entire state without jobs.
Nubli, please dont believe everything you read
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jrapp13 Wrote:this is the first time ive heard of a conservative bias in EVERY major news organization. Isnt it actually the other way around? (excluding Fox) Do people really believe these massive conspiracy theories and collaboration between grossly different industries? Was there even a way for bush to legitmately win? I think you would have cried foul on any victory. I read your article and it seems a bit rash to instantly declare that massive fraud occured based simply on exit poll results and on "hard evidence" from FOIA requests. They say themselves they just launched some of the largest in history; are we supposed to forget the fact there is no way to analyze that much information in only 2 days? what exactly are they basing there claims on? Have they already performed detailed statitistical analysis of information they in all likelihood dont even have yet. Im afraid the logic has too many gaping holes to be reliable. I would never cite this site in a serious academic situation; so why should I lend to credibilty now? the news is always bias. most of the news exists just to say what people want u to believe.... if there was a gas problem and the companies lost 5%, they would say 20% just so they could charge more for gas. its the bitter truth.
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True Silver but the media in general is very liberal. Most celebrities are liberal and most TV organizations. Hell around here we refer to CNN as the Clinton New Network. Fox is the only truly conservative network out there. And I'm really sick of hearing "Cheater!" everytime you guys lose now...pointing fingers didn't work in 2000 and it wont work now. Also the media isn't suppressing it Nubli they would crack this story in an instant if it had any truth to it to increase their ratings.
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