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okay guys this is ridicouls, first of all i completetly agree with you nubli
-Republican's run the voting machines, also the machines were mysteriously just put in ohio and other states
-Bush has cheated in 2000, and 2004, though many presidents have cheated
-There is nothing we can do about it
-we have to face the fact that bush won, kerry conceded he's honorable i think us democrats should take a lesson from him and just let it go, so what if we have a ****tard for another 4 years..
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Bush didn't get anybody to alter anything, you guys are just sore losers who know nothing of what they are talking about. Republicans run the voting machines? Lmao, if that was true, it would be exposed and everybody would be talking about it.
Okay don't ban me please, just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I should be banned.
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I find it funny how people can say Bush didn't cheat in 2000. It was actually PROVEN to the american people, but never put on the mainstream news shows. But there were other methods (and channels) as well. If you heard about it and deny it, thats about the same thing as denying the fact that the Holocaust ever existed. Stupid right? Don't be so dense.
medicine_man Wrote:Bush didn't get anybody to alter anything, you guys are just sore losers who know nothing of what they are talking about. Republicans run the voting machines? Lmao, if that was true, it would be exposed and everybody would be talking about it.
Okay don't ban me please, just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I should be banned.
Can you prove to us that he didn't cheat in 2000? Can you prove me wrong about this past election? I have given links which have more links. Those sites are the ones with the information. If you aren't going to bother to read them, then don't post here.
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so what!!!! ill tell you so what i dont want to end up dead or have another terrist attack my bro is in iraq dude and its cause of ****in bush he makes poor decisions and i havent seen my bro in like wat 6 week... hes flying somewhere and i dont no what the hell hes gone through... my mom cryed when he got sent out... its all cause of bush....
edit replying to medicines post where he says so what if we have a dumb president for 4 more years...
bush cheated and hes gay as hell i want to beat his *** up
i totally take nublis side
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Nubli, hey man I'm all for you bro. i too have extensivly read up on what bush did back in 2000. and i think everyone does, or atleast should, know that he did rip the election. and to deny that is just being purely obtuse, and also ignoring the truth. if you really want to get down to the bottom and find out about any political figure, you need to access sites or information that is published by A-political groups / sources. that is where you get the straight truth. but the vast majority of the American public is so dense that they think whatever comes on CNN or FOX has to be the "TRUTH". And i am personally with Nubli on this one, he did it and it was proven in the past, and i do not doubt for one second that he would do whatever had to be done just so he could rake in the money. i mean straight up, i have respect for all the presidents, but GW Bush is running this country for only one true reason, and thats to make him and all his buddies filthy rich. if he truely cared about the American people and America as a country, his actions would have shifted away from the war and back to stimulating our economy and getting America on its way out of resession. DONT get me wrong, i do believe in the war in Iraq and Afganistan, i have a brother who is a F-18 pilot who is posted in Afgan, and an Uncle in Iraq. I BELIEVE THAT OUR PRESENCE IS JUST AND RIGHT, BUT, i also believe that President Bush will perform what minimal civil action / policy that he must in order to get by. Now does this mean that im a Kerry supporter, no. I truely dont know who i would have voted for had i been 18 on 2 Nov. But the bottom line is that President Bush does not and probably will not perform the functions of the Executive Branch to the utmost of his, and his cabnet's ablility. thats my point. all he wants is the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
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i dont really follow this stuff as much as an American should but having a president that cheated to win really frightins me,i would not want my leader to be a liar
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wow... all i have to say is that this country has official gone down the shitter
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4sylum Wrote:wow... all i have to say is that this country has official gone down the shitter
Since Bush, yes.
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hey some1 saw the movie farenheit 911 , im canadian and i saw that movie and i was like damn ! how a dumbass like him can "won" again ! your people must see that movie. Bush know the osama benladen 's family and they are "friends" . it's hard to believe lol.
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You have to understand both are not entirly worthy. It is a vote between a lesser of two evils. at least, since were in the middle of a war, our leader has more experiance in war then the other choice. bush didnt steal the election, he one, the people voted and they voted for bush.
Farenheit 911 was just liberal sh!t, He only made Farenheit 911 for the money. how can you prove that Bush DID cheat? Maybe Bill Clinton cheatted two. you wanna prove he didnt?
And if your family member is in Iraq thats isnt bush's fault. i personally do have a cousin in the millitary that is ove in Iraq but, if they hadn't have signed up they wouldnt be in Iraq. It is not like Bush dragged them into the millitary.
And all politics is all F***ed up. One side lies about the other. you cant tell what side is right since they both lie or, "twist" the truth. like you can beleive what on the internet with out personaly knowing who your hearing it from.
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Ragnarox-xxt Wrote:You have to understand both are not entirly worthy. It is a vote between a lesser of two evils. at least, since were in the middle of a war, our leader has more experiance in war then the other choice. bush didnt steal the election, he one, the people voted and they voted for bush.
Farenheit 911 was just liberal sh!t, He only made Farenheit 911 for the money. how can you prove that Bush DID cheat? Maybe Bill Clinton cheatted two. you wanna prove he didnt?
Whenever a democrat stands up for what he thinks is wrong with some republican, they immediately get responses like, "Thats just liberal crap!" I notice it in every Bush supporter.
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The newest one I've heard ,dunno if it was posted in here yet or not to much to read lol,is that he had 30,000 votes from deceased people lol
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I dont fully support Bush, but f*ck most of the stuff against kerry is just crap too. i dont think the war was started for the right reason but we were supported when we started it and we cant just leave it there.
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anyway i dont care if it's bush or kerry ( i prefer kerry) cuz im not living in united-states.
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N u b l i Wrote:Whenever a democrat stands up for what he thinks is wrong with some republican, they immediately get responses like, "Thats just liberal crap!" I notice it in every Bush supporter.
Start giving me evidence and I will believe you. Nubli all you do is toss crack pot theories and cite Michael Moore...I thought it was clear that Michael Moore was proven wrong and a liar. So I will agree that it's liberal crap especially since you cite liberal news sources! And if you can't even admit the media is liberal when I have one of the biggest liberal's looking over my shoulder and laughing at the thought of the media being conservative.
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knight_ofdoom Wrote:hey some1 saw the movie farenheit 911 , im canadian and i saw that movie and i was like damn ! how a dumbass like him can "won" again ! your people must see that movie. Bush know the osama benladen 's family and they are "friends" . it's hard to believe lol. Yes... you are Canadian. You don't know what you're talking about, so just stay out of this thread. I've said it a bazillion times before - Farenheit 9/11 is pure trash. Look at the man behind it.
I'm officially leaving this thread 'cause it just annoys me how blindly people just hate Bush. This country is going down the shitter? Over 400,000 jobs were created last month. Not bad, eh? The unemployment rate is lower than it ever was during the Clinton administration. Back up your opinions with some facts, will you? Oh wait...
This is all I will say. This November, George Bush received the most votes ever in the history of our great country. You can call nearly 60 million people ignorant, but if you ask me, that's just being ignorant yourself. Nobody cheated, those links are bogus. Bush hating fanatics make garbage like that so I won't even waste my time.
EDIT: Well said Spoon. Rep point for you! And all you guys sucking up like crazy, cut it out. Atleast try not to make it so obvious.
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SpoonMan999 Wrote:Start giving me evidence and I will believe you. Nubli all you do is toss crack pot theories and cite Michael Moore...I thought it was clear that Michael Moore was proven wrong and a liar. So I will agree that it's liberal crap especially since you cite liberal news sources! And if you can't even admit the media is liberal when I have one of the biggest liberal's looking over my shoulder and laughing at the thought of the media being conservative. spoon as usual im on ur side with polotics... as for the guy who said the voting machines were rigged.. give me proof that they were.... as for the guy who said that bush won legitimatly, give me proof...... i doubt anyone will even be able to prove this from news sources... everything is so twisted around that u may only find 1/16 of news, facts.... and the people who may actually know what happened..... wont tell you.
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I find it how blindly you can support Bush. It's downright sickening! You don't know the motives of Michael Moore. You don't know what he really made those movies for. All some republican does is get angry and say his name and a few made up bad things about him. Next thing you know, everyone says they hate him. Hmm, talk about your "own" opinion, no?
And America itself is ignorant. Close to 60 million voters just proved my point.
How in the hell do you figure out that 400,000 jobs were created last month? I think someone has the lies spewing from them. And how can you say the unemployment rate is lower than during the Clinton years? Clinton was a MUCH better president than Bush! The republicans did nothing but ***** at the democrats during the Clinton years; all 8 years he was in office, nothing but *****ing. They looked for every excuse possible to get him out of office.
You must not be a victim of Bush's misleadings, MedicineMan. I live alone with a single parent, so it's been pretty damn hard getting by. My mom got laid off because she was getting payed more than the company could afford. This was June 2003. It took her months of searching to find a new job. Finally she got a break and started working around Feb-March of 2004, and was fully hired in April. But during those off months, we came damn near losing the house and everything we had. Now I find it hard to believe it wasn't because of Bush. During Clinton's years, it was nothing but good times. Life was good, even if I was just a kid. Then Bush gets into office. Osama gets the idea to attack the US, knowing full well that Bush will try to go after him, but never whole heartedly. That is exactly what happened. Bush has forgotten all about Osama, and is only in Iraq/Saudi Arabia for the oil.
Now after giving you a small sample of why I hate Bush, maybe you will understand that many of us democrats are not blind and stupid. We KNOW what we are talking about. Like I've said before, if you are too dense to read the information and try to accept that these things such as cheating are POSSIBLE, then just don't even argue because it's not worth anybody's time.
PS - SpoonMan, of course it's all liberal information to you. All you think is either republicans or liberals. No inbetween. Now you always want "hard evidence." Well I'm not going to sit here and feed it to you. We have search engines. http://www.google.com is one I'm sure you've heard of. Try it one day.
Oh yeah and SpoonMan, watch the movie on http://www.votergate.tv there is a 300MB one and a 2GB one. For now, I know that the 300MB explains a lot of what I'm getting at.
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sure you've had a rough time but id like to see your sources first before you run toward the light at the end of the tunnel, besides votergate.tv
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