Bush Owning America... Again...

[ArcaneSupremacy]

If you are fixing the terror they are causing you are not a terrorist. It may in some people's eyes but that's their problem now isn't it? I'd rather have us bombing them than the turban-wearing shit heads in the Middle East bombing us and flying planes into our buildings. You can cry about then going into Iran all you want but your opinions aren't going to stop shit.

i know my opinions aren't going to stop shit. i'm not american .

crying is for the citizens. dealing with the source of the problem is for assassins. :devilish:

think about it...after the twin towers were knocked out, bush bombed afghanistan to a crisp. he then tears iraq apart because of "suspicions". no weapons of mass destruction were found, so he was proven wrong, yet he keeps yapping on about the so-called war against terrorism. now he's going after iran. he's already killed more "terrorists" than the terrorists could ever kill americans. enough is enough.

[UberGrossMann]

my opinion isn't going to stop shit either and i am american...its so sad.

ROFL .I'm moving out soon. Goin to Ontarioooo.

Sounds good to me mate, as long as its away from Bush 2.0 its all good

[SpreadNeedleXP]

crying is for the citizens. dealing with the source of the problem is for assassins. :devilish:

Wowww, a new low.

[ArcaneSupremacy]

Wowww, a new low.

what exactly are u trying to say?

[SpoonMan999]

remember saddam posed such a huge thread to the world and it took us what? 2 weeks to declare "mission accomplished". If all bush has to do is say someone is a threat to be able to go to war then that's ****ed up. If we're gonna go someplace that's a threat let's go to n korea...Kim Jung Il scares me about the same amount as Dubya, except i think KJI has way more intelligence....which scares me even more... After bush was the one who said "most of our imports come from other countries" (think about it) Also read the quote in my sig...

So any of you canadians want to give me a place to live for a couple years? *cough* Pant *cough*

Maybe I'm just crazy but I believe those quotes come from Robin Williams Live on Broadway.

And now for my two cents...

1. All non Americans really have no say in what happens with us and our president and for the most part they have no clue what's going on here.

2. The campaign in Afghanistan has crippled much of the terrorist network Al Qeida (Sp?)

3. While there were no weapons that we found in Iraq, remember they are easily sold to other nations, Saddam had given money to Osama and was SLAUGHTERING HIS OWN PEOPLE.

4. Watch Farenhype 9/11 it explains the falsities of Farenheit 9/11. Funny thing Ray Bradbury was pissed that Moore ripped off his title.

5. Through the war in Iraq many terrorists have come to Iraq for a chance to kill Americans...therefore a mass number of terrorists are now in one place and made into easy targets.

6. My step brother is in Iraq and if I recall correctly he voted. And told us they were practically on their knees praying that Kerry wouldn't win the election over there.

7. If Iran has nukes we should take them down. They have harbored terrorists in the past and have been know for being a tad 'unfriendly.'

8. For all of you that wish to move to Canada because of Bush...SHUT UP AND DO IT ALREADY. I'm tired of hearing people whine and claim they're moving and never do. I'll help you pack! Just shut the hell up!

[Edit] Also the Cuba thing...hmm someone already tried to overthrow the Cuban government. Oh wait! He was a Democrat!

[Tool]

Oh, believe me, I see Iran as an enemy, just not an enemy we should be fighting why the troops in Iraq alone are already in need of supplies. I recall from a time when Donald Rumsfield recently visited Iraq, one of the soldiers asked why it was that instead of having the proper armoured vehicles, they had to go through junk yards to get more plating for humvees and the like. Point being, we don't need a war RIGHT NOW. I always see it as a thing in the future, it's inevitable. But as for now, **** that shit, ****ing 40 million for an inauguartion, the ****ing tsunami BS needing money, and the Euro slowly becoming the international trade currency is showing me one thing. We need to stop for the time being and recover the economy, America has had the highest unemployment percent since the Great Depression, which, is probably due to the fact that Mexicans are border hopping and whatnot. Still, my point being, **** war, let's ****ing get rich and show how much we ****ing own the world and then we ****ing **** North Korea first and then ****ing Iran. I mean God damn, use some ****ing logic. =\

[SpreadNeedleXP]

Oh, believe me, I see Iran as an enemy, just not an enemy we should be fighting why the troops in Iraq alone are already in need of supplies. I recall from a time when Donald Rumsfield recently visited Iraq, one of the soldiers asked why it was that instead of having the proper armoured vehicles, they had to go through junk yards to get more plating for humvees and the like. Point being, we don't need a war RIGHT NOW. I always see it as a thing in the future, it's inevitable. But as for now, **** that shit, ****ing 40 million for an inauguartion, the ****ing tsunami BS needing money, and the Euro slowly becoming the international trade currency is showing me one thing. We need to stop for the time being and recover the economy, America has had the highest unemployment percent since the Great Depression, which, is probably due to the fact that Mexicans are border hopping and whatnot. Still, my point being, **** war, let's ****ing get rich and show how much we ****ing own the world and then we ****ing **** North Korea first and then ****ing Iran. I mean God damn, use some ****ing logic. =\

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Wow.. you're ignorant. We are the richest country in the world and we DO pwn all others. WE have enough nuclear explosives to destroy the world 14 (correct me if im wrong) times.

Also, based off the rules of capitalism, the federal government is supposed to stay away from interfering with economy as much as possible. The economy rules its own and fixes itself.

I am not aware of the 40 million inauguration, but hey... all the pop singers can afford multi million dollar purses.

As for the tsunami funds, the funds are growing. Look at it this way, us americans have more money then they do in the whitehouse, so most funds are suppposed to be coming from us anyway.

If you look at the map, iraq is connected just west of Iran. Oh yeah, lets try you're plan: We will go around the world several times to defeat the enemies. Or how about we logically go to where the closest one is? you want them to send all of our troops to korea then back again? Get some sense, and btw... you dont know shit about whats going on (I dont mean this to be a flame comment).

[ArcaneSupremacy]

We are the richest country in the world and we DO pwn all others. WE have enough nuclear explosives to destroy the world 14 (correct me if im wrong) times.

that makes america the greatest threat to the world.

[D4rkSl4y3r]

ok guys i say screw you and....GO BUSH.....SCREW U GUYS... thats what happens when you talk about my president and you canadians dont even get me started on you french bastartds so just drop the damn conversation...OK!!!

[ArcaneSupremacy]

ok guys i say screw you and....GO BUSH.....SCREW U GUYS... thats what happens when you talk about my president and you canadians dont even get me started on you french bastartds so just drop the damn conversation...OK!!!

i respect u for being so patriotic, but ur racist comments are not needed here. either chill out, or stop reading this thread.

[Muse]

About the inauguration, a lot of the money used to fund that was paid by leaders of countries other than america.

Saying that if your not with america your a terrorist is one of the most stupidest things i've ever heard.

The war in iraq is mainly becuase of money and bushes hatred against sadam, if 911 didn't happen the war in iraq probobly wouldn't be happening. Bush just needed a good reason to go to war.

The only reason Bush is still the president is becuase most the christians are with him becuase of the muslims and that most people are afraid to change their president during a war.

[Tool]

I never said America wasn't the richest country, I simply said that the Euro is steadily rising in value and is being considered to be the new international comparison currency-type thing. I'm ignorant? Well you obviously can't read/comprehend what people say. And once we do get done with Iraq, we'll obviously be allies so we could do an invasion at any time on Iran. And I believe North Korea is closer to America, considering if you go by sea... Because if you go by sea you have to go around Africa and through Kuwait or though that little space by Egypt and go though God knows which country... So... Yeah... It's not that far away, buddy. =\ As for that celebrity purse thing, I fail to see your point.

[BoJaNgLes]

Yes theres no need to be racist now im canadian and i think Bush did kinds the right thing by taking out saddam if he did do it who would?

[Hamel]

Ok, taking out saddam was a very wise choice, i mean holy crap people say he didnt need to do that or he had no reasons or w/e. We had plenty from a long time ago, we always have been after him and now sense BUSH got him everyone is saying its wrong. But everyone knows it isnt wrong at all its great! Bush is a fine president. and he won from peoples vote, i hate when people say he cheated and crap just to make him look bad. Im going to bed at the moment and i have nothing further to say at this time. Have a good night whoever is going to bed ^^

[Nubli]

If we keep getting more presidents like Bush consecutively, we will find ourselves fully fledged into Africa and South America.

The number one bad thing about going to Iran: the draft will most likely be revamped. But by then, I'll be living safe and sound in Canada [seriously]

[Lifted]

ill die before you see me goin to canada.......thats the only opinion i have on this hole thing lol

[ArcaneSupremacy]

assuming there's a draft and u're still living in the states...what if u refuse to join? what happens to u? do u get sent to jail or something? sry, i'm not too familiar with american law.

[PantallicA]

ill die before you see me goin to canada.......thats the only opinion i have on this hole thing lol

Good, we don't want you here anyway.
I haven't seen Farenheit because I KNOW how biased it is. But, I do know that Bush isn't exactly a top-notch Prez. Attacking Hussein wasn't the wisest choice that he's ever made - Although Saddam DID deserve it. He and one of his officers (Chemical Ali) Tested chemical weapons on their own Iraqi cites. Saddam was evil, but Bush isn't making himself a saint, either.

And about all this Abu Grhaib bullshit, it's completely biased as well. All the beheadings are absolutley nothing compared to what some of the Americans do to the Iraqis over there (Abu Grhaib)

Wow, I'm tired.

[SpoonMan999]

If we keep getting more presidents like Bush consecutively, we will find ourselves fully fledged into Africa and South America.

The number one bad thing about going to Iran: the draft will most likely be revamped. But by then, I'll be living safe and sound in Canada [seriously]

Sorry Nubli but if you would dodge the draft just to save your own hide then you don't deserve the freedoms you have. Anyone who would not fight for their rights does not deserve to have them. Also the draft wont happen...in case you haven't noticed we have the strongest army in the world and even with our people in Iraq we have plenty more at home just waiting.

And about all this Abu Grhaib bullshit, it's completely biased as well. All the beheadings are absolutley nothing compared to what some of the Americans do to the Iraqis over there (Abu Grhaib)

I hate to be mean but...are some kind of moron? That humiliation and pyramid crap was nowhere near as bad as the slow televised beheading of a human being...Seriously stay out of politics in the future it will be a favor to the world.

[Edit] Keep forgetting to talk about good ol Kim. Kim Jong Ill is not stupid enough to attack us, in fact he has said he respects and fears Bush. He contributed money to Kerry's campaign though saying he knew Kerry would be more lenient (sp?) and he build new weapons more freely.

[splintercell]

OK I'll drop my opinions and not argue with anyone, as these are just opinions.
1: Bush is rather "stupid", but not in the way many people think.

2: He made the right decision to go after Osama, he just waited too long after 9-11 in my opinion.

3: I had a friends older brother die Jan. 15th in Iraq. He stepped on a land mine, or so the reports say, and died. He was less than 3 weeks from returning home. So as for everyone saying stop the war now, STFU. Seriously, if we stop now, those soldiers, civilians, and other people who HAVE DIED over there, will all be in vein.

4: As for going into Iran, or anywhere else like that. go for it. We need to take out every terrorist we can at this point, or they will regroup and pull another 9-11 style event. True you can say if Bush had never invaded, then we wouldn't have to fear retalliation, BUT didn't Osama hit us first? *DUH*

5: After seeing what has happened in the middle east, IF other countries are harboring terrorists, and that country's leader is not affiliated with said terrorists, they might very well expel and/or capture the terrorists for us, rather than face invasion by our army.

6: Most of politics is BS and bribes, puppet governments and people pulling strings. But the American government IS the lognest standing government in the world today, so they must do something right, even if they do alot wrong.

7: The economy under capitalism is not going to completely fix itself. We are not under laissez faire(sp?) policies in America. (if you don't know what that is stop reading and go look it up!) Our government MUST interfere in the economy to prevent another depression. And brigning the troops home in hopes of fixing the economy is about the most absurd thing I have heard in this thread. (note i did not read each and every post word for word) The war, iin all relations to the economy, is helping it. It is not at all the best thing for the economy, but it surely is not what is making it falter. Some of the problems with the economy include lack of skilled labor, such as carpenters, electricians, ETC. With fewer and fewer people going for these jobs, and more and more going for higher paying, executive level jobs, who the hell is going to build and wire the new executives office? Labor being in higher deman means it wil cost more, thus, many companies that COULD expand to help the unemployment rate, can't, because it would kill their profits. In turn this would hurt the economy. I'm not an economic analyst, so IF there is one here, please post some ways to help the economy, because I can't explain them all. Nor do I feel like explaining them in text anyway.

8: farenheit 9-11 was a stab at Bush personally. They took basic fact that any American can see, and made seemingly conclusive connections to make Bush seem like a sick and evil man. If you think I am wrong about the personal stab at Bush, I will ask you to recall near the beginning of Farenheit 9-11, when Bush blew Moore(i think he was the director of Farenheit 9-11, been a while since I saw it, corrrect me if I am wrong plz) off and told him to get a real job. So yea...tell me it wasn't personal.....and I'll have to tell you to watch again. Spoon where can I see that Farenhype movie? I haven't heard of it before...

Anyway this is the end of my opinion post. Feel free to take a stab at them, but if you do, bring some REAL facts to the table to discuss, not this IMMATURE "i hate bush" or "the war is stupid". I want to hear why, and I want it to be convincing and factual. If you can't do that, don't friggin post. Oh and one more thing, I doubt there will be a draft, I know some a SGT. in the marines, and he pointed out something very true to me. In all wars that the draft has been issued, the death toll went well over 100,000, or was at least past 50,000 American deaths. This war on terrorism, not even at 10,000 yet. He also pointed out that we have higher numbers now than we did then(initially before drafts), so if the death toll is lower and the number of troops volunteering is higher, why draft?