Bush Owning America... Again...

[UberGrossMann]

Spoon - i would dodge the draft now too for the simple reason that i'm not gonna die on some crusade. Fighting for your country and dying to protect it is honorable. But the war in iraq isn't protecting our country or our rights.

Yes saddam was a bad man. Sure he killed his own people. Would you sooner have your brother die, or some iraqi that you never heard about and you probably don't care about either...

[Tool]

Right on, UGM. Umm, I don't recall anyone saying to take the troops out of Iraq to recover the economy, although the government WILL need to interfere indeed. Also, to stop terrorism is like trying to stop the world for turning. It's just one of those things that will always be there, whether it's as big as it is now or not, it will be there.

[SpreadNeedleXP]

that makes america the greatest threat to the world.

Though the WMD's in other places seem like a threat, because it us under the threat of dictators that would love to use it for supremecy over others.

I believe North Korea is closer to America, considering if you go by sea... Because if you go by sea you have to go around Africa and through Kuwait or though that little space by Egypt and go though God knows which country... So... Yeah... It's not that far away, buddy.

Dude... read what I said, I stated that our army is ALREADY in Iraq, therefore it would be quicker to mobilize in Iran first. Yeesh.

Yes saddam was a bad man. Sure he killed his own people. Would you sooner have your brother die, or some iraqi that you never heard about and you probably don't care about either...

OMG... wow man, Saddam was a threat to the world. Saddam took control of Iraq in 1979, killing 21 (I think) cabinet members.. he INVADED kuwait, and was ready to attack Saudi Arabia. The US responded to this, and sent there troops where they would fight "Desert Storm", which was an effort to free kuwait. Bush was just in for finishing the war that his father had to fight. Yes we DO care. Those who are ignorant, wouldnt.

[X.x G o D x.X]

thats kinda funny cause hmm he never even was gonna attack us he was just not even killing other countries but we came in and killed his ppl then this also started with osama then went to saddam but he also said that he was looking for weapons of mass destruction not gonna finsh his fathers job (which he could not do) then guess what he could not find any weapons hmmmm?? wonder why maybe cause he is stupid then also why must we start a war with iran they have do nothing to us but nooo we gotta attack first i so see nuclear war fare written alll over this we are gonna die then all you reblicuans are gonna feel dumb for voting him in again i mean god look WE ARE GONNA DIE FOR GOD SAKE can you not get that through your thick anal skull he is now gonna put our country in the shitter because of his last term which i think is gonna happen cause i think he is gonna start a WW3 and then you all will see when we die of your guys mistakes

[SpreadNeedleXP]

thats kinda funny cause hmm he never even was gonna attack us he was just not even killing other countries but we came in and killed his ppl then this also started with osama then went to saddam but he also said that he was looking for weapons of mass destruction not gonna finsh his fathers job (which he could not do) then guess what he could not find any weapons hmmmm?? wonder why maybe cause he is stupid then also why must we start a war with iran they have do nothing to us but nooo we gotta attack first i so see nuclear war fare written alll over this we are gonna die then all you reblicuans are gonna feel dumb for voting him in again i mean god look WE ARE GONNA DIE FOR GOD SAKE can you not get that through your thick anal skull he is now gonna put our country in the shitter because of his last term which i think is gonna happen cause i think he is gonna start a WW3 and then you all will see when we die of your guys mistakes

Cmon man... as splintercell said, use FACTS. You are totally deriving this out of things you have heard from ignorant liberals that cant get their facts straight. He DID finish his fathers job (Capturing hussein). Sigh..

[ArcaneSupremacy]

thats kinda funny cause hmm he never even was gonna attack us he was just not even killing other countries but we came in and killed his ppl then this also started with osama then went to saddam but he also said that he was looking for weapons of mass destruction not gonna finsh his fathers job (which he could not do) then guess what he could not find any weapons hmmmm?? wonder why maybe cause he is stupid then also why must we start a war with iran they have do nothing to us but nooo we gotta attack first i so see nuclear war fare written alll over this we are gonna die then all you reblicuans are gonna feel dumb for voting him in again i mean god look WE ARE GONNA DIE FOR GOD SAKE can you not get that through your thick anal skull he is now gonna put our country in the shitter because of his last term which i think is gonna happen cause i think he is gonna start a WW3 and then you all will see when we die of your guys mistakes

use some punctuation FOR GOD'S SAKE... i can barely make out what u just said. i think it's a bit too early to know for sure whether or not we are all going to die.

[Nubli]

Sorry Nubli but if you would dodge the draft just to save your own hide then you don't deserve the freedoms you have. Anyone who would not fight for their rights does not deserve to have them. Also the draft wont happen...in case you haven't noticed we have the strongest army in the world and even with our people in Iraq we have plenty more at home just waiting.

You have it all wrong. Just because I don't want to fight for the rights I have doesn't mean I don't care. To me, my life is the most important thing. I will not fight in a war that is pointless and that hurts this country. I will not fight for one of the dumbest presidents in the history of the US.

Now please, hush your patriotic crap. I know you are with Bush on all of this, but I think you have just pushed it too far. You are entitled to your own opinion, but you have no right to force it on others. But wait a minute, isn't that what Bush did in Afghanistan and Iraq? Forcing a working government into chaos, then "trying" to reconstruct it into a democracy? Please, that was a very stupid move by the Bush administration. We are basically doing what the Europeans did in the past when they put up artificial borders in South-West Asia and Africa. All Bush knows how to do is **** people off. I'm one of 'em.

As for the US having the strongest army, that doesn't mean we are plentiful. Although in a few years I'm sure the numbers will rise, because the worse education funding gets and the value of life dissolves, all these 18 year olds will have is the Army, Navy, etc. We have more police officers in New York city than we do in Afghanistan. But when you think about it, we dont even need an army! If we had just let the UN take control and the organizations they worked for, I'm sure the US wouldn't be hated worldwide like it is today.

Another reason to move to Canada (not to just be sucked into a senseless war) is that social security will soon be screwed over in this country. Once it is privatized, say goodbye seniors. When I move to Canada, the first thing I will do is tune into the news to see what BBC has to say. Of course, I can always go to the website, but hey, people don't seem to think the internet matters when trying to prove a point. All they do is whine and complain that the site is biased.

So once again SpoonMan999, maybe you should stay away from politics. I don't care what you say, it's wrong. It's not because I'm left-sided on the issue or that I am seen as "hard headed," but you truly have no idea what is going on. Please, never talk about politics again, as you stated you would do a few months ago.

[UberGrossMann]

OMG... wow man, Saddam was a threat to the world. Saddam took control of Iraq in 1979, killing 21 (I think) cabinet members.. he INVADED kuwait, and was ready to attack Saudi Arabia. The US responded to this, and sent there troops where they would fight "Desert Storm", which was an effort to free kuwait. Bush was just in for finishing the war that his father had to fight. Yes we DO care. Those who are ignorant, wouldnt.

So you're telling me that saddam was a threat to the world because he invaded kuwait 25 years ago? So bush IS finishing what his father started and its just hatred of saddam that's driving us to war...Great, i always love a president who will kill innocent people cause daddy had a grudge. You're also telling me that if you had to chose between your brothers life, and someone who you don't know, that you chose the person you don't know over you're brother. I think that makes you the ignorant one bud...

And nubli...you just torn spoon a new ***hole.

[Tool]

Dude, you know what. **** making them a Democracy, we should ****ing do what the Romans did. Let them keep their shit how it is but if they get out of hand we go in slaughter them... That'd make much more sense, although then we'd be an empire, which I really don't care what the **** we are. =\

[Hamel]

If we keep getting more presidents like Bush consecutively, we will find ourselves fully fledged into Africa and South America.

The number one bad thing about going to Iran: the draft will most likely be revamped. But by then, I'll be living safe and sound in Canada [seriously]

Theres not going to be a draft, it was rumor that spread and it will never happen. America does not need any more troops then we have, they have enough people that signed up to fight that will fight. I can assure you that there wont be a draft. And if there ever was, anyone thats a boy and has no brothers and their father is dead would not be drafted because only a male can pass on the family last name and the son would be it if he had no father. martass2

[Tool]

Yeah, coming from you, I doubt it.

[qweeve]

Michael Moore is full of more fairytales than Mother Goose.

[SpreadNeedleXP]

You have it all wrong. Just because I don't want to fight for the rights I have doesn't mean I don't care. To me, my life is the most important thing. I will not fight in a war that is pointless and that hurts this country. I will not fight for one of the dumbest presidents in the history of the US.

Now please, hush your patriotic crap. I know you are with Bush on all of this, but I think you have just pushed it too far. You are entitled to your own opinion, but you have no right to force it on others. But wait a minute, isn't that what Bush did in Afghanistan and Iraq? Forcing a working government into chaos, then "trying" to reconstruct it into a democracy? Please, that was a very stupid move by the Bush administration. We are basically doing what the Europeans did in the past when they put up artificial borders in South-West Asia and Africa. All Bush knows how to do is **** people off. I'm one of 'em.

As for the US having the strongest army, that doesn't mean we are plentiful. Although in a few years I'm sure the numbers will rise, because the worse education funding gets and the value of life dissolves, all these 18 year olds will have is the Army, Navy, etc. We have more police officers in New York city than we do in Afghanistan. But when you think about it, we dont even need an army! If we had just let the UN take control and the organizations they worked for, I'm sure the US wouldn't be hated worldwide like it is today.

Another reason to move to Canada (not to just be sucked into a senseless war) is that social security will soon be screwed over in this country. Once it is privatized, say goodbye seniors. When I move to Canada, the first thing I will do is tune into the news to see what BBC has to say. Of course, I can always go to the website, but hey, people don't seem to think the internet matters when trying to prove a point. All they do is whine and complain that the site is biased.

So once again SpoonMan999, maybe you should stay away from politics. I don't care what you say, it's wrong. It's not because I'm left-sided on the issue or that I am seen as "hard headed," but you truly have no idea what is going on. Please, never talk about politics again, as you stated you would do a few months ago.

Dude. All of these are just comments on what you think might happen. You're stating blindly without backing yourself up with any facts to prove such things will happen. Goodbye seniors? For goodness' sake Bush was backed up by almost all seniors!

We dont NEED an army huh? Thats the hippie mentality you're creating for yourself there. Yeah, lets just strip ourselves of defense and get overthrown. Whatever happens to America, dont be suprised, Canada will be affected largely - So you might want to think of moving a little farther. If you really want to move to Canada, then go. What's stopping you? Good riddance. :eek:

[Crown]

Getting rid of our army would not help us get other countries to not hate us, that would give them reason to express their hate and totally wipe us out! Think about it, how many countries do you think would jump right on the opportunity to destroy us if they knew they would recieve no punishment in return? I agreed with almost everything you said until I read that.

EDIT: Sorry, I misread what you said about the UN taking over, so some things I posted would have made no sense to what you posted.

:confused:

[SpreadNeedleXP]

Getting rid of our army would not help us get other countries to not hate us, that would give them reason to express their hate and totally wipe us out! Think about it, how many countries do you think would jump right on the opportunity to destroy us if they knew they would recieve no punishment in return? I agreed with almost everything you said until I read that.

EDIT: Sorry, I misread what you said about the UN taking over, so some things I posted would have made no sense to what you posted.

:confused:

What you said would still apply though, good point.

[Nubli]

Theres not going to be a draft, it was rumor that spread and it will never happen. America does not need any more troops then we have, they have enough people that signed up to fight that will fight. I can assure you that there wont be a draft. And if there ever was, anyone thats a boy and has no brothers and their father is dead would not be drafted because only a male can pass on the family last name and the son would be it if he had no father. martass2

So then either way I'm safe. Although it seems like there are enough troops out there today, how many of the returning troops do you think will sign up to go back to Iraq? If it's one thing the media has supressed, it's the soldiers stories first hand in Iraq. We never hear about the horrifying things that go on there. So when we run out of returning soldiers, they will either be ordered back, or there will be a draft.

But on another note, there are social security problems that will arise. If Bush gets it privatized, say goodbye to the average retiree age of 55+. Most people will be working till their late 70's unless their kids can pay for them.

Not in Canada. So I'm going there.

Plus the education funding level is so much better.

[UberGrossMann]

Michael Moore is full of more fairytales than Mother Goose.

1st off when did michael moore get brought into this...And 2ndly, yes michael moore can't get his facts straight, or likes to just make up stories that help his side. Hmm...that sounds like someone else i keep hearing about George W. Bush!!!! And moore isn't running our country, bush is...

[Nubli]

Dude. All of these are just comments on what you think might happen. You're stating blindly without backing yourself up with any facts to prove such things will happen. Goodbye seniors? For goodness' sake Bush was backed up by almost all seniors!

Have fun when the economy slips again. Especially when the housing bubble pops.

We dont NEED an army huh? Thats the hippie mentality you're creating for yourself there. Yeah, lets just strip ourselves of defense and get overthrown. Whatever happens to America, dont be suprised, Canada will be affected largely - So you might want to think of moving a little farther. If you really want to move to Canada, then go. What's stopping you? Good riddance. :eek:[/QUOTE]

I never said we didnt need an army. I said our army shouldn't even be in Iraq. Comprehension 101 please. I hear it's cheap these days.

[Crown]

As for the US having the strongest army, that doesn't mean we are plentiful. Although in a few years I'm sure the numbers will rise, because the worse education funding gets and the value of life dissolves, all these 18 year olds will have is the Army, Navy, etc. We have more police officers in New York city than we do in Afghanistan. But when you think about it, we dont even need an army! If we had just let the UN take control and the organizations they worked for, I'm sure the US wouldn't be hated worldwide like it is today.

I don't see you talking about Iraq at all in that paragraph....

[qweeve]

1st off when did michael moore get brought into this...And 2ndly, yes michael moore can't get his facts straight, or likes to just make up stories that help his side. Hmm...that sounds like someone else i keep hearing about George W. Bush!!!! And moore isn't running our country, bush is...

When, if you look back through the thread, several people made mention of his movie.