who should be a superpower if usa ever winds down?

[Bloodangel26]

no i havent heard of that....if its true that is really interesting, and kind of funny...

[Loits]

I've heard GM bought an engine type from this freelance inventor that had so few moving parts that it would probably never need to be replaced... Then they patented it and locked it up in a warehouse somewhere.

Yeah that really efficient engine with little moving parts is called a diesel engine, americans should try it, it is quite popular in Europe.

[Bloodangel26]

the problem with diesel is it puts out a lot of pollution....we americans only use them in our "diesel trucks" for shipping...but i'm glad you have such high opinions of yourself that you think we havent thought of it yet...you awesome europeans still for the most part use diesel in your submarines instead of much quieter and efficient nuclear power

[Loits]

the problem with diesel is it puts out a lot of pollution....we americans only use them in our "diesel trucks" for shipping...but i'm glad you have such high opinions of yourself that you think we havent thought of it yet...you awesome europeans still for the most part use diesel in your submarines instead of much quieter and efficient nuclear power

Diesel is less polluting since a lot less of it is consumed.

There is also Bio-Diesel.

I'm all for nuclear power but the reason that Europeans use diesel subs is due to the fact that a lot less money goes towards military spending. Nuclear is much more expencive to develop and to maintain.

I didn't mean to mean that i have a higher opinion of myself as a European but to shoot down that dumb comment.

[Bloodangel26]

yea its less polluting because a lot less is consumed on purpose...meaning we dont use it much on purpose

[C-Man619]

I went with China because they have mass population advantage and they are becomming more advanced technilogically when it comes to military. Think about it, I don't care how much ammo the US or any other nation has, without a nuclear war, China would wreck anyone by pop. They have the worlds largest, probably the largest ever, standing army. They could send their men into a nation with butterknives and sticks and still win a war.

Also, China has a growing airforce, naval fleet, general standing army, and their technology is getting very advanced. With regular technologie like DvD players and such, they have already passed us, though military advancements the US has a little head start on them. Within a few years, China will have caught up to the US in power and can probably take over the world if they wanted to. Of course not the entire world, but they could be the next US.

[Bloodangel26]

for the most part, chinese military still consists of out-of-date soviet equipment that russia sold when the union collapsed

[Loits]

yea its less polluting because a lot less is consumed on purpose...meaning we dont use it much on purpose

Don't you know that Diesel engines are a lot more efficient?

[Bloodangel26]

and produce more pollution? and cost more?

[Loits]

They used to be slighty more polluting not any more especially if you concider bio-diesel.

In newer engines there is no performance drop either like there used to be.
in terms of performance diesel = gasoline except for high performance vehicles cos rpm = hp.

The only reason why diesel engines are not widespread in the US is because gasoline is so cheap there and diesel is heavily taxed. In reality Diesel is a lot cheaper to manufacture.

Diesel cycles are a lot more efficient than Otto cycles.

If you had advanced knowledge about thermodynamics and engine design you wouldn't be arguing with me on this topic but since you only have your biased opinions you are.

Btw more than 50% of brand new vehicles are sold with diesel engines in Europe.

for the most part, chinese military still consists of out-of-date soviet equipment that russia sold when the union collapsed

True that, Chinease military isn't even close to the standard of US military during the first Golf War. The only thing they have is people but numbers of soldiers don't matter any more thesed days in an all out war.

[Siluru]

IF I had to choose I'd say China. But I doubt the US will ever 'wind-down' to a point where it isn't the superpower any more. I couldn't even think of the kind of world we would be in if China, Russia, or India were to obtain power like that.

Also BlindSpot about the debate on Japan it isn't aloud to build any type of army except for a minor militia to defend itself. All defense of Japan comes from the US due to Japan damn near taking over the East a while back, including China.

[hellsing293]

Originally posted by Dacougarmech
ive heard of that too. a lot of cheaper and efficient items are purposely kept off the market because they would be so long-lasting that the consumer would never need to replace or fix it, causing a recession in that industry. has anyone else heard of the car fueled only by used french fries oil? the drivers drove it across the nation, stopping at restaurants and asking for the used oil, which they got free because it would have been thrown out anyway

that's not true. i read that a disiel engine was originally built to run on vegiable oil. but it cant run on the vegiable oil from fastfood places because they would need to take te waer out of the oil. you could take a regular disiel engine and convert it to run on vegiable oil but one you buy off a dealship couldn't run on vegiable oil.

[The Mob]

ive heard of those cars. and yes, you can take any diesel model and convert it. it can be kind of expensive to convert though so in the long run it may not be worth it. hopefully feul cell technology will recieve greater government support. that will really solve everything. feul cells

[wm_hunter]

As a Canadian (no bias, I swear ), I think that if everyone had the same kind of ideals and psyche, the world would be a better place. Maybe as the next superpower we will have enough influence to set a good example

[[/sarcasm]]

Yeah that really efficient engine with little moving parts is called a diesel engine, americans should try it, it is quite popular in Europe.

You're clever man, really clever. But actually, I live in Texas. Every other truck is a diesel. The engine I heard about had a lot fewer moving parts than a diesel, but again, it's just a myth.

[Loits]

You're clever man, really clever. But actually, I live in Texas. Every other truck is a diesel. The engine I heard about had a lot fewer moving parts than a diesel, but again, it's just a myth.

Every other truck doesn't mean anything, I'm talking about avarage consumer vehicles. No shit it's a myth, at it's best it's a modified diesel not a new type of engine. There are only so many things you can do with a combustion engine. Btw Toyota has the most advance Diesel engines in the world so yeah it would make sense for GM to be hiding a "new" type of engine while it's undegoing a major downsizing.

I'm actually know what i'm talking about when it comes to engines and engine design, KTYSTFU.

Anyway there is a third type of engine out there called a Wankle engine, maybe that was the one you meant? Wankle engines have few moving parts due to their unique piston design. Ford owns the rights for producing them. In reality wankle engines are inefficient and the only reason they are being made is because is their uniqueness, that's the basis they sell under.

[FraterPerdurabo]

Hey, I'm back after my banning. From the impression that I get, in the meantime, this thread has gone downwards. I mean what the hell does Star Trek have to do with something that in my opinion will be a key issue in the coming decades? Anyway, here we go.

South Korea's been also getting a lot of attention lately too. but America won't be "dethroned" for a while though. i mean, we have the resources and major oceans on each side. but by the time they do fall, i think russia could be back in power. if WWIII was to break out though, russia would win in my opinion. they like i said ealier are the hardest to invade. I also forogt to mention that besides the fact for being only able to be invaded from their south side, their climate would make it hard to invade them at all. When Napolean invaded russia his tanks froze and prevented thier advance if i'm not mistaken.

Dude, I'm sorry, but tanks were not invented before the First World War. Napoleon invaded Russia around 1810, if I'm not mistaken. WWI lasted from 1914-1918. Yes, the cold did kill Napoleon's soldiers, but not only. His army was also constantly being ravaged by Cossacks (irregular cavalry, kind of guerilla warfare), lack of supplies (scorched earth policy), and inadequate preparation (Napoleon's ego). I did Napoleon for one of my history modules at school, so please don't dispute this unless you have a credible arguement.

lol am i the only one who voted for russia. russia has throoughout history wanted to conquer the world(well that's what it said in a book anyways). like look how the soviet union wanted to take over the control of ravenged countries after WWII. usa knew that was a bad idea and then we plunged into the cold war. also, Russia is a HUGE country. and they got mountains cutting part of the country off from the rest of europe on their west side and they got the ocean the their north and east side. the only way really into russia is through china. And people from the north(mongols 1500-1600's) have managed to conquer china from the north before.

Russia does not have the organization required to govern itself, not speaking of the entire world.

As for China, no matter what anyone says, you're stupid not to think one of their top research topics include advanced weapon research, biocemic weapon research, and nuclear warfare research.

Oh yeah, I forgot that America's doesn't, right? Right.

ive heard that they have already developed cheap and efficient cars that dont use gas but they dont release it because it would destroy the economy. ive also heard that they have made an everlasting lightbulb but they dont release it because the industry would go broke

That's true. In some companies, they even have entire departments dedicated to research in creating products that work at 100% at first, but then wear down, so that you would go out and buy a new one.

Also, beforehand, someone mentioned that army size does not matter. Of course it does, how do you think Russia won the WWII?

[Bloodangel26]

how do you think Russia won the WWII?

because the US opened up a 2nd front and stomped japan's ass so that japan could not open up a 2nd front on them?

[C-Man619]

for the most part, chinese military still consists of out-of-date soviet equipment that russia sold when the union collapsed

The chinese economy is rising, and the more technologically advanced they get, the more money they can bring in, so they get more advanced, and it helps to have the population to work plants and factories who you can pay bags of dirt in a time of need. Because of the rising economy the Chinese will have the resources to equip at least some of their soldiers with more high-tech gear, and just some of the Chinese soldiers can out-number the American Army. Their standing army is about 100 MILLION people, where as the american's isn't near that. Shit, Canada doesn't even have 1 million now, and during the second world war or right after, Canada was the worlds 4 largest powerhouse lol.

[FraterPerdurabo]

because the US opened up a 2nd front and stomped japan's ass so that japan could not open up a 2nd front on them?

It's not only that. The Russians vastly overpowered the German armies in the Eastern front. Hitler drew a line across the Baltic, and he said that the territory beyond that line was to be defended at all costs, and concentrated most of his men there. They were still outnumbered about 1:20 in each battle, and for every German soldier that fell, there was no replacement, but if 20 Russian soldiers fell, there were 100 replacements. Why do you think that the Soviets had the largest casualties in the war? They could have sustained another year of such warfare without running out of manpower.