Need Help Picking A Router

[skidude]

i need a new router and don't know what too get

i don't need more then 4 port and i don't need a really good one that costs 100

looking for idea on what too get cause a friend is offeren a older 4port one for $20

also will both pc's have the same ip

[Spitfire]

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EDIT: You after just a plain router or one with ADSL / Cable

[Gods]

I'd suggest a LinkSys router I've had it for about 2 years now and its really nice since it allows 4- 10 (depending on which one you buy) cable connections and it has wireless, and no it doesnt give you the same IP. You can get one pretty cheap too and they work perfect http://www.linksys.com thats the website so check it out.

[Bartender]

I got a d-link with 4 or 5 links, I got it for around 40 bucks at fry's, works alright but with wireless stuff, you may have to reboot it once in a while (10 hours or so)

[wm_hunter]

D-Link and LinkSys are both amazing brands. About 40, but the best QUALLITY on the market.

I will try and keep this as simple as possible. Both IPs will have the same PUBLIC ip (this is the IP your modem is using), but the router will give them each a different PRIVATE ip (usually automatically, if you need a computer to have a constant priv IP you can say "always give computer "blah" IP blah").

The private IP is nothing more then how the router sees the computer. It can be used for port forwarding or advanced router rules, but no site or internet service will need to know it.

The short answer, for the general person: Yes, they will have the same IP and the same internet service from your modem, but they are still unique.

[Gods]

D-Link and LinkSys are both amazing brands. About 40, but the best QUALLITY on the market.

I will try and keep this as simple as possible. Both IPs will have the same PUBLIC ip (this is the IP your modem is using), but the router will give them each a different PRIVATE ip (usually automatically, if you need a computer to have a constant priv IP you can say "always give computer "blah" IP blah").

The private IP is nothing more then how the router sees the computer. It can be used for port forwarding or advanced router rules, but no site or internet service will need to know it.

The short answer, for the general person: Yes, they will have the same IP and the same internet service from your modem, but they are still unique.

I think what WM is trying to say is that the IP will be something like "190.---------" and both computers will start with "190" right? (just an example)

[trayne]

if you are happy with your router, just get a hub to add to the router. each hub will add 4-5 connections. i'd suggest a gigabit router for gaming.

[wm_hunter]

I think what WM is trying to say is that the IP will be something like "190.---------" and both computers will start with "190" right? (just an example)

No...

The IP that everyone on the internet will be assigned by your ISP, for example...

142.168.179.201

My IP edited

The IP that the router uses to tell the computers apart and do anything on the LOCAL network, will look different.

For most Dlinks: 192.168.0.xxx
For most LinkSys: 192.168.1.xxx

xs = any valid number *0-255*

These IP ranges, also including those like 10.x.x.x, are reserved for private network IPs and will never be used by an internet service provider.

As I mentioned before, no one sees the second IP and it is only used by your router in firewall rules, addressing packets to the proper computer when they come to the router (without this, every computer connected would "see" [the packets] what every other computer on the network is doing on the internet), and handle traffic on the LOCAL network.

[trayne]

simple term: you will have the ip the company gives you but your computers will be connecting to gateway ips that the router will provide you.

you can also set the series of numbers to start from. by default, it does 100+ so it will end up like 192.168.1.100... (<-Example) but you can change the series in the routers options.

[wm_hunter]

Yes, you can use your own ranges or set up by MAC address (assigned by your network card) to be able to ALWAYS give IP "blah" certain rules (if you need to forward ports or make firewall rules) in the DHCP section of the router.

I hope you understood the differences of the IPs. They confuse many people.

Modem IP: Seen on internet. Seen by people. Public.

Router IP: Handles traffic on LOCAL network (computer one > computer two), makes it so only you see the internet activity YOU are doing and not what all other computers in your house are doing. Not seen by random people. Private.

[trayne]

if you need ports, you can find them on portforward.com. it has lists of routers and ports that need opened for a game or program to run properly. i've noticed the older routers (like belkin) are mistaken with a trojan warning from its own software from firewalls/scanners (i.e. windows defender, avp, bitdefender, spybot) they mistake its ist and list files as a trojan when in fact its not. you might have to add an exemption to them if you buy an old one. i've found the problem on series between 1998 and 2001 series. luckilly those ones are only in use for the old 98 computers in the office i visit monthly.

[Esuna]

Lol, right before I graduated from HS, I remember this computer technician that always drop by with plenty of Linksys router, as well as other products, I use to take them and hand em out to my friends who needed them, too bad I didn't know you. Other then that, you should go to Fry's electronics, they always got something good and cheap. That or the flea market if you have any around you.