Is this a good video card?

[Bounda]

The x1300 Pro... i wanted to ask before i got it for xmas..
http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.asp?imodule=CTVX1300AGP256MB&WSMD=CTVX1300AGP256MB&WSPN=CTVX1300AGP256MB
im currently using an integrated SiS card, and its performance is crap.

[WooT]

its an alright one, for 100$ ur gettin what u paid for forsure

[The Mob]

its an ok card.. depends on what your going to do with it. in my opinion it is better to upgrade to PCI Express 16 mainly because in the long run the cards are way cheaper. also shop around some more and look on tech reviews. it looks like this X1300 is just a step above a 9800Pro. an nividia 6600GT owns the 9800Pro.. so it would be better to go with a 7600
here is the website i use alot

[Dan]

ya but for him to update to PCI xpress16 he would need a new mobo, maybe a new processor, etc etc. it would end up costing alot more. hence he sticks with AGP and saves money

[[/sarcasm]]

That's actually the same model number I'm getting, except it's an ATI Radeon X1300 Pro and it's for PCI-e. I've read some good things and some bad things. I've heard, though, that it's not as good as a GeForce in the 3-D compartment, but it can do shading and anti-aliasing simultaneously, whereas the GeForce cannot. At least I think those are the two it can do simultaneously.

However, I could've spent another 150 and gotten a GeForce 7900 and I'm kinda kicking myself for not doing so.

[The Mob]

ya.. i made the mistake of not going to PCI-Express and socket 775 while building a new computer.. and now the prices are actually cheaper on those sockets and you get more variety. ive already kicked myself lol

[Bounda]

ima be playin cs source and hl2 once i get this

[The Mob]

then ya, that card can run it. i think that a 6600 can also run it, i havent tried myself but my friend has one

[Bounda]

do u have an estimate of the kind of FPS illl get..
(prepare to laugh)
on Dust with my current video card i get about 1 FPS
i usually play texture maps

[The Mob]

holy cow.. 1fps?? does the charactor even move?? lol

[Ayah]

Don't expect to go very far in HL2 with an X1300 Pro, too few pixel shaders and low/mid-low clock for the loss.

Fork over some money for a 7600, it's one of the best bang for the buck cards.

(The x1300 Pro is WAYWAYWAY overpriced, I wouldn't put more than 30$ on one)

[trayne]

x1300 pro is okay. the regular has more pixels than the pro due to the bands on it. the xt version of it would be better and i believe its also 25dollars cheaper. I didnt bother with a 7600. was a waste of money and the way the system was clocked and locked, it would of fried it. but i'm guessing yours is prebuilt so you'd probably want to stick with a geforce type or a hercules type. raedon is more for movies, streaming and personalized computers. the pro can be altered easier than some and you can set the clocks using rivatuner.....it actually has okay shaders just some are disabled in installation and need to be manually turned on.

[Ayah]

x1300 pro is okay. the regular has more pixels than the pro due to the bands on it. the xt version of it would be better and i believe its also 25dollars cheaper. I didnt bother with a 7600. was a waste of money and the way the system was clocked and locked, it would of fried it. but i'm guessing yours is prebuilt so you'd probably want to stick with a geforce type or a hercules type. raedon is more for movies, streaming and personalized computers. the pro can be altered easier than some and you can set the clocks using rivatuner.....it actually has okay shaders just some are disabled in installation and need to be manually turned on.

The Pro is gimp. I believe it has either 4 or 8 shaders. The XT is an x1600 Pro with a different name, it had 12 shaders.

A "clocked and locked" system doesn't really make sense to me.
To my knowledge there are no "hercules" type cards. Radeons aren't more for movies...

nVidia and ATI both produce excellent GPU cores, it's the implementation that's usually flawed. Both excel at certain price points in the market.
Pixel shaders are disabled to be able to mass produce a single core type and have it work for multiple products on the market.

[Bounda]

alright since this is confusing me, ill give you guys a simple question
SHOULD I or SHOULD I NOT buy this

[Ayah]

You COULD buy it, but NOT for 100$.
Newegg.com - GECUBE Radeon X1600PRO GC-RX1600GA2-D3 (RoHS) Gamer Edition Video Card - Retail

An x1600 class card would be the BEST choice at the 100$ price point. You could invest more and get a 7800GS of course.

[trayne]

The Pro is gimp. I believe it has either 4 or 8 shaders. The XT is an x1600 Pro with a different name, it had 12 shaders.

A "clocked and locked" system doesn't really make sense to me.
To my knowledge there are no "hercules" type cards. Radeons aren't more for movies...

nVidia and ATI both produce excellent GPU cores, it's the implementation that's usually flawed. Both excel at certain price points in the market.
Pixel shaders are disabled to be able to mass produce a single core type and have it work for multiple products on the market.

hercules is a subclass name for cards just as geforce has pny and others. pro is set at 4 or 8 shaders at default based on its version and software but it can be manually changed up to 32 if my memory serves me right.

radeon stated already in the past their cards were more to serve movie playing rather than gaming. some of their newer cards are still directed to movies rather than games itself but are beginning to change due to the overwhelming requests they have been giving over the years after their slight halt in mid 2004 when nvidia released 3 cards in a short period of time.

if you want to talk about gimp, you may want to talk to macintosh complaining about how microsoft was stealing from them when in fact macintosh stole ideas from microsoft during the production of the g4 series and their exposed OS system. as for nvidia they are already busted for copying parts and setups from the ati X series.

btw. the X series comes in standard, XT, Pro XT pro and XTX. just some of them are harder to find since they have been set as an onboard unit for some of the newer board such as the one foxconn released a month ago that is supposed to be vista supportive.

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choosing ati: make sure the subname is a good one. crucial lately sucks ass at making video and audio cards. you may want to choose from maybe diamond, HIS or even visiontek. only thing crucial makes good so far is their OC memory cards and their 120mm cooling fans

[Ayah]

I really wouldn't call PNY a sub-name of video cards. They are video card manufacturers who implement the GPU cores onto PCB boards.

Crucial does not make memory, they assemble it. Their chips are usually from their parent company, Micron, who actually make the memory chips themselves. Crucial most likely just inserts the chips onto PCB boards, then adds heatspreaders and other fancy stuff depending on the model of the memory in question.

I really would only go with BBI and Sapphire cards for ATi based boards.
For nVidia cards, get XFX or eVGA. Their lifetime warranties cover almost anything you do to it.

[xDBD]

i run a slightly overclocked nvidia 6600GT, BFG brand to be exact. i must vouch that this card is beyond beastly. one problem I had with it, though, is that if you're case is kind of cramped, this card over heats very very quickly. as long as you give it the space it requires it's awesome

[Bounda]

i run a slightly overclocked nvidia 6600GT, BFG brand to be exact. i must vouch that this card is beyond beastly. one problem I had with it, though, is that if you're case is kind of cramped, this card over heats very very quickly. as long as you give it the space it requires it's awesome

haha sweeet

[[/sarcasm]]

I've got to admit, now that I have my system, that getting the X1300 was a mistake. It can run games like WoW at near-max settings, but I find myself playing F.E.A.R. at medium settings or suffering from very low framerates. It creates a huge bottleneck, as my processor is a 2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo that never slows down.

On the bright side, I love the processor. I was playing F.E.A.R. on Medium settings while installing WoW. Can you guys get me a newegg link to the best card you can find for under 250? 512 MB would be nice, but I'd rather find something that runs fast as hell, rather than just having a lot of memory.