Vt Tech Shooter Info

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Sometime after he killed two people in a Virginia university dormitory but before he slaughtered 30 more in a classroom building Monday morning, Cho Seung-Hui mailed NBC News a large package, including photographs and videos, lamenting that “I didn’t have to do this,” the network said Wednesday.
Cho, 23, a senior English major at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University, killed 32 people in two attacks before taking his own life.
NBC News President Steve Capus said the network received the package in Wednesday morning’s mail delivery and immediately turned the materials over to FBI agents in New York.
The package included an 1,800-word manifesto-like statement diatribe in which he expresses rage, resentment and a desire to get even.
The material is “hard-to-follow ... disturbing, very disturbing — very angry, profanity-laced,” Capus said in an interview late Wednesday afternoon.
The material does not include any images of the shootings Monday, but it does contain “vague references,” including “things like ‘this didn’t have to happen,’ ” Capus said.
“You had a hundred billion chances and ways to have avoided today,” Cho says on one of the videos. “But you decided to spill my blood. You forced me into a corner and gave me only one option. The decision was yours. Now you have blood on your hands that will never wash off.”
Capus said gloved NBC security personnel handled the package very carefully as soon as it arrived. The network immediately called the FBI and turned it over.
The package bore a U.S. Postal Service stamp recording that it had been received at a Virginia post office at 9:01 a.m. ET Monday, about an hour and 45 minutes after Cho shot two people in the West Ambler Johnston residence hall on the Virginia Tech campus and shortly before Cho entered Norris Hall, where he killed 30 more people.
“We probably would have received the mail earlier had it not been that he had the wrong address and ZIP code,” Capus said.
[B]Shooter speaks on camera
[/B]Among the materials are 23 QuickTime video files showing Cho talking directly to the camera, Capus said. He does not name anyone specifically, but he mentions “sin” and “spilling” his blood and talks at length about his hatred of the wealthy.
The production of the videos is uneven, with Cho’s voice so soft that at times it is hard to understand him. But they indicate that Cho had worked on the package for some time, because he not only “took the time to record the videos, but he also broke them down into snippets” that were embedded paragraph by paragraph into the main document, Capus said.
The package also includes 29 photographs. He looks like a normal, smiling college student in only the first two. In the rest, he presents a stern face; in 11, he aims handguns at the camera that are “consistent with what we’ve heard about the guns in this incident,” Capus said.
Other photographs show Cho holding a knife, and some show hollow-point bullets lined up on a table.
“This may be a very new, critical component of this investigation,” said Col. Steven Flaherty, superintendent of Virginia State Police, the lead agency investigating the shootings. “We’re in the process right now of attempting to analyze and evaluate its worth.”
[B]Detention order issued[/B]
As early as 2005, police and school administrators were wrestling with what to do with Cho, who was accused of stalking two female students and was sent to a mental health facility after police obtained a temporary detention order.
The two women complained to campus police that Cho was contacting them with “annoying” telephone calls and e-mail messages in November and December 2005, campus Police Chief Wendell Flinchum said.
Cho was referred to the university’s disciplinary system, but Flinchum said the woman declined to press charges, and the case apparently never reached a hearing.
However, after the second incident, the department received a call from an acquaintance of Cho’s, who was concerned that he might be suicidal, Flinchum said. Police obtained a temporary detention order from a local magistrate, and in December of that year, Cho was voluntarily but briefly admitted to Carilion St. Albans Behavioral Health Center in Radford, NBC News’ Jim Popkin reported.
To issue a detention order under Virginia law, a magistrate must find both that the subject is “mentally ill and in need of hospitalization or treatment” and that the subject is “an imminent danger to himself or others, or is so seriously mentally ill as to be substantially unable to care for himself.”
According to a doctor’s report accompanying the order, which was obtained by NBC News, Cho was “depressed,” but “his insight and judgment are normal.” The doctor, a clinical psychologist, noted that Cho “denies suicidal ideations.”
Cho was released, said Dr. Harvey Barker, director of the health center.
“If a person is able, at that moment, to ah persuade a psychiatrist [and] the hospital treating team that they are OK to be released — I imagine sometimes that does happen,” Barker told NBC News.
Under the law, the magistrate could have issued a stronger detention order mandating inpatient treatment, but there was no indication Wednesday that such an order was ever entered. A spokesman for Carilion St. Albans told NBC News that he could not discuss Cho’s case because of patient confidentiality and privacy laws, but he said the hospital was cooperating with the investigation.
Otherwise, Flinchum said, there were no further police incidents involving Cho until the deadly shootings Monday, first in a young woman’s dormitory room and then at a classroom building across campus. Neither of the alleged stalking victims was among the victims Monday.

In addition to the 33 people confirmed dead, including the gunman, nine people remained in hospitals in stable condition, hospital authorities said.

[1337-Orange]

Im watching msnbc right now and im spee.chless

[FeNiXSuNfIrE]

as i watched this earlier today on the news, it was the last thing i suspected.... i mean you have to be extremely messed up to go off and murder 32 people but to do this as well? sending photos and videos of you planning...basically showcasing your absolute evil intentions.... i dont know what to say.

it is good to see that on CNN they are finally paying more tribute and attention to the victims then the shooter. most of the time they care way too much about the shooter and you dont hear much about the victims themselves.

[Mathalamus]

well well well.... cho got all the work done, the plan to kill 32 people including himself.. thats a lot of work...

Ok that was retarded....that is not work it is murder.~Pamela

[jedimaster86]

It's all about perspective. As we look at it of course we view it as evil, but to him this seemed to be doing the right thing in his mind.

On top of this, he is going to become well-known and he will go in the books; a killer with a plethora of multimedia mailed right to the media = exposure. His message was important, and it sure got out there.

[Mathalamus]

that is the first time a suicide was expresed on the media

[The Mob]

there is one thing that had not been covered at all however. his family.
there most be some reaction from his family. yes i know that they need privacy right now, but i mean, it sounds like he doenst even have a family. i have heard sources that his father committed suicide after the incident, and that his mom is in the hospital right now. he has a younger brother as well from what i have heard. i heard about these from a friend whose parents read the local chinese newspaper down here in houston.

[Tweak293]

We won't know the true motives until some bullshit legislation gets passed and we all stop and say... "this is what that shooting was all about..." Opinion? Yes, but "the opinions that I do not give are the opinions I ain't got..."

[Pamela]

that is the first time a suicide was expresed on the media

You do not read papers or news I take it?You will never figure out his problem,it could be many pressures and factors.What remains is the trauma and greif he created,this is what is left.Now people must pick up the peices and try to recover.
This is how life works.It is not fair,and is rife with maniacal idiots...life will never be fair...but we learn to cope.

[Tweak293]

You do not read papers or news I take it?You will never figure out his problem,it could be many pressures and factors.What remains is the trauma and greif he created,this is what is left.Now people must pick up the peices and try to recover.
This is how life works.It is not fair,and is rife with maniacal idiots...life will never be fair...but we learn to cope.

This entire world is going to shit... It wont be long before it happens again. The other day in seattle washington at a local highschool they found a student with a 9mm in his locker along with a significant amount of ammunition. If you ask me, it wont be long. Quite frankly, Im getting sick of it...mad:mad:mad:mad:mad:

[Ragnarhox]

This entire world is going to shit... It wont be long before it happens again. The other day in seattle washington at a local highschool they found a student with a 9mm in his locker along with a significant amount of ammunition. If you ask me, it wont be long. Quite frankly, Im getting sick of it...mad:mad:mad:mad:mad:

I think the week before Virgina tech a fourteen year old was arrested for conspiring to kill two teachers with a rifle. And I believe yesterday, or today, all northern cali schools were closed after someone threatend to go on a spree that would make Virginia Tech look mild by comparison.

[Mathalamus]

is it me or is everyone paranoid?

[Pamela]

Yah me too dude,not only do we lock our doors at night and fear going out into the night,we must also fear sending our children to school.
But hey!!! Your education is important to your future,providing you live to see it.....

[Mathalamus]

i got out at night and i ahvent seen a single threat withing 7 kms of me
and school, pft in in canada, no guns up there

[Tweak293]

Well, according to the "million mom march" guns are evil and no body should have them... apparently they dont believe in the constitution. Its enough as it is with this piece of sh*t patriot act they passed, as it demotes the contstitution and the 1st, 4th, and 8th amendment rights. As citizen of the United States of America I wont give up my guns. Pardon me for speaking out... but more people besides me should also. Guns dont kill people, crazy psychopathic idiots like Cho kill people.

[Ragnarhox]

Well, according to the "million mom march" guns are evil and no body should have them... apparently they dont believe in the constitution. Its enough as it is with this piece of sh*t patriot act they passed, as it demotes the contstitution and the 1st, 4th, and 8th amendment rights. As citizen of the United States of America I wont give up my guns. Pardon me for speaking out... but more people besides me should also. Guns dont kill people, crazy psychopathic idiots like Cho kill people.

Why should we bother sticking to the constitution when it is so old and possibly outdated? Would you rather use the first computer ever made or a new one set for current times?

[Tweak293]

Whatever. If you want to give up your rights to fascism go right ahead...
But Im not going to. Do you know what would happen if they were to take away the constitution?? No right to a lawyer, no right to say what you just said, no right to defend yourself, no right to vote, no right to... well you do the mathsmartass2

[Ragnarhox]

I didn't say remove the constitution; I said revise it.

[Tweak293]

^And that is exactly what they have done my friend. Have you ever read the Patriot Act?

On October 26th, 2001, just 45 days after September 11th a panicked Congress passed, with little debate, the USA Patriot Act. The 342 page patriot act violates our 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th and 14th amendments, thus making it unconstitutional. I don't know why Congress passed this act, or how it got through the Supreme Court, but most people in Congress didn't even read the Patriot Act. I am sure that our founding fathers would not have wanted the Patriot Act. Just look at what Ben Franklin said, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." There was only one person in the senate that day that stood up for our Civil liberties, Russ Feingold (D-WI). He's a true "Patriot"

[Mathalamus]

^ proof that the USA cant read shit