Gay/Lesbian Marriage Legal In California.

[tigeroip]

First off, i said some parts of Europe, for one im ukranian and in ukraine if there are homosexuals running around openly, it wont end in happiness....Christ is about peace, but He is also about people not choosing gayness and lesbianisms. All i want is for gay people to either die, or stay hidden and not open as they are, although i know i cannot help it here in North America, i can certainly do somethign about it next time i go to ukraine.

[Aemaeth]

First off, i said some parts of Europe, for one im ukranian and in ukraine if there are homosexuals running around openly, it wont end in happiness....Christ is about peace, but He is also about people not choosing gayness and lesbianisms. All i want is for gay people to either die, or stay hidden and not open as they are, although i know i cannot help it here in North America, i can certainly do somethign about it next time i go to ukraine.

You obviously didn't even read my arguement about what your religion says about me, and are just clinging onto excuses.
Do yourself a favour little boy, shut the fuck up.
Another point.
You defecate in other peoples gardens while drunk and think it's fucking cool, lol, no one is gonna take you seriously.

[fleaflickerx]

If they want to be as miserable as every one else, let them.

[stranger1235]

Well i am Russian Orthodox and i dont really give a fuck what argument you put up with it, just because this is fucking North America and people have free speech, you can argue what ever you want. Homophobic means that you are scared of homosexuals, or hate them. My religion is against homosexualism, and thats wha ti believe in, if u dotn like it u can suck my fucking dick, this shit is pissing me off way too far. If you were to go to most of the countries in Europe and be open gay like that, i wanto see what would happen to you. I dont care abotu gays and lesbians as long as they stay hidden and not open liek they are now. I wish they would all just get fucking killed. We need a new Hitler to get rid of them.
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if you are a homophobe why do you want us to suck your dick?

[tigeroip]

LOL you are so fucked up, i though this was about discussing our opinions? i did, and what do you do? change my name and signature..etc.

[Zerobanshee]

tiger, come over here...
*leads tiger into a corner*
*hits him with a rubber chicken*
a second Hitler? Seriously? Are you permenantly retarded from the alcohol, or were you just born that way? You'r posting is lowering my iq just trying to decipher the text, not including trying to choke down my vomit long enough to respond.
They are not harming you, or threatening your lifestyle, so just shove it in your ass, leave and keep what dignity you have left, if any.

[Skye]

All i want is for gay people to either die, or stay hidden and not open as they are, although i know i cannot help it here in North America.

Fuck you asshole. If they had done something to you, then that's understandable. But they haven't, So pull your head out your ass and smell the fresh air.

I haven't been this pissed off in a long time...

[Aemaeth]

LOL you are so fucked up, i though this was about discussing our opinions? i did, and what do you do? change my name and signature..etc.

You're quite paranoid eh? I didn't touch your name or signature.

[SpoonMan999]

Christ is about peace, but He is also about people not choosing gayness and lesbianisms.

Show me where he said that. I fucking dare you to try.

All i want is for gay people to either die, or stay hidden and not open as they are,

So, that's ALL you want? Oh well that's not much right...you want to either end their lives or have them live in secrecy? Well that's reasonable. /sarcasm

although i know i cannot help it here in North America, i can certainly do somethign about it next time i go to ukraine.

I'd love to see you do this. I'll bet you get your ass beat by a drag queen in high heels.

[kurups]

sigh..
there is nothing wrong with being gay. it is not immoral to be gay. and it is not against religion to be gay. the only thing that is immoral is to act out those sexual actions.

however, even i do not agree with what my faith says. good for california. gays for a long time have been discriminated against and should be allowed to marry for social and economic reasons. personally, i dont see anything wrong with being gay either. let them marry, it not like they will take over the world or seriously destabilize the family unit.

You're right, it's not immoral to be gay, it's fucking

unmoral

IDIOT

blah blah blah I'm a stupid fucking European

Dude, I don't hate you, I don't feel as though you should die or wish damnation upon you. But as a catholic you should seriously understand that whether or not being gay is wrong or right it's not up to you to punish them is it. It's God's job to send them to the eternal fires of hell for being the sinners they are... loving men... what are they thinking...

Stop playing God, you are not God, let God do his work as it's not yours to do. Hate them in quiet, and guess what! WRATH IS ONE OF THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS! It's you that is the sinner, moron.

[xDBD]

notice the correlation, the older members are accepting of homosexuality and the younger ones are the homophobes. homophobia exists in older people obviously, but i do believe our generation (age 17-25ish) is much more accepting than those before it. i think that the younger kids are just ignorant and haven't really learned.

arguing with the children here about homosexuality is like preaching god to an older athiest. you just have to grow up, and then you'll realize we all have our "dirty laundry," and then, once that hits you, you'll realize sex isn't dirty laundry.

that's how it happened with me anyway, i used to be all homophobic but then i realized that, we're all people and we all do things that we do. what you do with your sexual partner to satisfy your libido is nothing but following your instincts. you smarter ones know what i'm getting at, it's just a matter of maturity. honestly if you're over the age of 18 and still have awkward feelings towards gay people you need to get over yourself

[SpoonMan999]

I'm going to get back on gay marriage being legalized in my state and just say my only issue is that an overwhelming majority of Californian's voted against legalizing it. Our Supreme Coutr over turned the voters though.

Now, again, I support it and in fact voted in favor of it I'm just upset that the majority's interests are not being represented.

[xDBD]

I'm going to get back on gay marriage being legalized in my state and just say my only issue is that an overwhelming majority of Californian's voted against legalizing it. Our Supreme Coutr over turned the voters though.

Now, again, I support it and in fact voted in favor of it I'm just upset that the majority's interests are not being represented.

..that's pretty lame, but at least they abused the power for something worth abusing it.

[Obfuscate]

I'm going to get back on gay marriage being legalized in my state and just say my only issue is that an overwhelming majority of Californian's voted against legalizing it. Our Supreme Coutr over turned the voters though.

Now, again, I support it and in fact voted in favor of it I'm just upset that the majority's interests are not being represented.

The peoples interest do not always coincide with what judges and lawmakers find to be lawful. A perfect example would be the Patriot Act. It's incredibly unpopular and many belive it infringes on their basic right to privacy but judges and lawmakers continue to find it legal and well within the rights of the goverment. You can find this in nearly every law on the books in America. There are those who believe the law to be just and those who think it infringes on one of their basic rights.

[FrogMan]

Being Greek Orthodox myself I must of been absent when they talked about going gay bashing once week although the orthodox religion does not endorse gay/lesbians it doesn't say that you should be violent either and you cannot wish death on anyone.

As far as another Hitler??? I am then going to assume you hate Jews,blacks and everyone else that is not white blond and blue eyed.

As far as the decision goes I have no strong feeling against or for it because it makes no difference in my life.

[Pamela]

sigh..
there is nothing wrong with being gay. it is not immoral to be gay. and it is not against religion to be gay. the only thing that is immoral is to act out those sexual actions.

however, even i do not agree with what my faith says. good for california. gays for a long time have been discriminated against and should be allowed to marry for social and economic reasons. personally, i dont see anything wrong with being gay either. let them marry, it not like they will take over the world or seriously destabilize the family unit.

Show me where he said that. I fucking dare you to try.



So, that's ALL you want? Oh well that's not much right...you want to either end their lives or have them live in secrecy? Well that's reasonable. /sarcasm



I'd love to see you do this. I'll bet you get your ass beat by a drag queen in high heels.

Probably the 2 most rational posts in this thread. I agree with Froggy about the blonde haired blue eyed comment.


To me the passing of this law was very needed and has little to do with religious beliefs.

These people live as partners,having all the same responsibilities of any marriage. Yet getting none of the benefits a marriage brings as far as legal rights as a spouse.

Up until now,they have fought an up hill battle to attain any right a husband or wife have under the law.

This change was long overdue and I support it.

As much as I like Blue and Tiger,I also think you both should just shut the fuck up and get your asses out of this thread.

Or at the very least re-read Scotts post,assuming you read it at ALL...

[SpoonMan999]

The peoples interest do not always coincide with what judges and lawmakers find to be lawful. A perfect example would be the Patriot Act. It's incredibly unpopular and many belive it infringes on their basic right to privacy but judges and lawmakers continue to find it legal and well within the rights of the goverment. You can find this in nearly every law on the books in America. There are those who believe the law to be just and those who think it infringes on one of their basic rights.

I completely agree with you but my point is they asked us what we wanted and then gave us what they wanted anyway. I got the result I voted for but I was not of the majority on this issue. That's my only complaint.

[tigeroip]

I dont hate blacks, jews or any race, when i applied that there should be another Hitler, i ment the morality of the people who choose to be homosexuals. Btw as i said befor ei am not catholics, i am russian orthodox. I do understand that my religion does not invoke on violence, however you can call me an extremist in this case only as i am against homosexuals. As to them doing anything personnal to me, yes there has been incidents where i have felt extremely uncomfotable and i have before been sexually harassed and assaulted by a gay person in the past. It was one of the worst experiences in my life and ever since i have become a person of complete hatred against all homosexuals. I only wanto raise my opinion for this thread, please dont mention other threads as i have not said anything about anyone else that has nothign to do about this topic. I undestand that a lot of you disagree with my opinions, but they are my opinions and what i believe in.

[SpoonMan999]

I dont hate blacks, jews or any race, when i applied that there should be another Hitler, i ment the morality of the people who choose to be homosexuals. Btw as i said befor ei am not catholics, i am russian orthodox. I do understand that my religion does not invoke on violence, however you can call me an extremist in this case only as i am against homosexuals. As to them doing anything personnal to me, yes there has been incidents where i have felt extremely uncomfotable and i have before been sexually harassed and assaulted by a gay person in the past. It was one of the worst experiences in my life and ever since i have become a person of complete hatred against all homosexuals. I only wanto raise my opinion for this thread, please dont mention other threads as i have not said anything about anyone else that has nothign to do about this topic. I undestand that a lot of you disagree with my opinions, but they are my opinions and what i believe in.

This black guy kept bugging me the other day. All blacks should die.

You see how your opinion sounds in a different context? You're an idiot.

[tigeroip]

Just because a black guy was bothering you, thats nothing. When you get sexually harassed by a gay motherfucker, you'll start seeing what i am trying to say. YOUR AN IDIOT.