Dont underestimate a necro summoner build

[Keitaro]

No, **** bone spear.
Here we must focus on the summoners. Hybrids will only slow you down.

At lvl 35 sleketons and mastery, the skeletons have:
1005 Life
1100 ATR
1100 Def
dmg was someplace between 450-500

With 10 summoning skillers i get them lvl 45 wich shoud be great skeleton lvl.

[k_dash22]

how many skeletons can u summon in total? 14-15 warriors and 14-15 magi? couple that with 40 revives, a golem and suffice resist. thats a powerful dueller, let alone monster killer.

Is it possible to get a golemlord's prefix on a ring?

[Keitaro]

how many skeletons can u summon in total? 14-15 warriors and 14-15 magi? couple that with 40 revives, a golem and suffice resist. thats a powerful dueller, let alone monster killer.

Is it possible to get a golemlord's prefix on a ring?

Plz, dont set points in revive unless you are PvM.
And if you do, then 1 point is more than enough.

[k_dash22]

for sure. i've only set 1 point on revives, and i dont use them as much. i'm able to summon 6 so thats enough to keep my minions alive with support... but i meant with ur gnd chrms... it would total 40 right?

[Keitaro]

for sure. i've only set 1 point on revives, and i dont use them as much. i'm able to summon 6 so thats enough to keep my minions alive with support... but i meant with ur gnd chrms... it would total 40 right?

shako = 2
maras = 2
HotO = 3
Homoculus = 2
2 soj = 2
Bugged siggard/arachnid = 1
10 summon skillers = 10
1 annihilus = 1

That is 23 skills from itsm and 24 skills in total.
That shoud be plenty, but you will never have any use for them in PvP.

Ok to sacrifice 3 skills if you plann to hybrid PvP and PvM.
Shoud only be 1% resist all you loose.

[k_dash22]

what use has a summoner have for hoto? other then oak sage?

Wouldn't you want to supplement with offensive aura's?

[Keitaro]

what use has a summoner have for hoto? other then oak sage?

Wouldn't you want to supplement with offensive aura's?

You get skill+ wich help bone armour and curses, and you get 40% FCR wich makes you tele faster, wich is in it self much better than the offensive aura.

The only thing you may exhange your hoto in is a doom runeword, but that is the only...

[k_dash22]

oops my bad, i'm confusing myself with bone strategies. I'll experiment all of this on an editied character/single player

[Keitaro]

oops my bad, i'm confusing myself with bone strategies. I'll experiment all of this on an editied character/single player

Just renember than PvP and PvM is not the same.
So skeletons may not be that good in PvM

[k_dash22]

whats the difference between pvp and pvm skels? arn't they the same in terms of skill levels, stat distribution, items etc? or slight variations

[Keitaro]

whats the difference between pvp and pvm skels? arn't they the same in terms of skill levels, stat distribution, items etc? or slight variations

Lets make an easy example:

Take this little fellow:

he got 33K life, pretty much defence and 50% chance of block + 50% dmg reduce.
Skelletons to full dmg to them -%dmg

And then we have this little fellow:

This is another player wich wanna kill you.
He have 2-3k life, 75 all resist, 50% dmg reduce 75% block.
Skeleton will to 1/4 dmg on them -50% dmg reduce = 1/8 dmg

But as you can see the amount of life is extreme so renember this when you battle monsters.

[k_dash22]

what is the relevance of that post?... how effective skeletons are?

isn't it all p or m dependent?

[Keitaro]

what is the relevance of that post?... how effective skeletons are?

isn't it all p or m dependent?

Nevermind...
I give you up.

[k_dash22]

LOL... forget it, i'm making my own way. perhaps i'll see you on battle.net in which case you better bring it.

[A|fzZz]

I think ill stick with leoric...ill use wizspike to tele once ive got the minions all ready...

[nujabes]

well tell me if my gear is ok cuz im poor
+3 summon circ
+2 nec +1summon wand (i think thats the stat)
+1 vipermaji (bleh i no)
-ill try to get homo or somethin good enuff
-either +2 all ammy or +3 summon
-marrowwalks? damn i traded mine away and didnt think i wuld need
-wat gloves?
-wat rings?
-wat belt?

[Keitaro]

well tell me if my gear is ok cuz im poor
+3 summon circ
+2 nec +1summon wand (i think thats the stat)
+1 vipermaji (bleh i no)
-ill try to get homo or somethin good enuff
-either +2 all ammy or +3 summon
-marrowwalks? damn i traded mine away and didnt think i wuld need
-wat gloves?
-wat rings?
-wat belt?

If you cant affort enigma, then dont make a summoner.
That simple it is.

[HK-21]

i have a pvp nec his name is formula-four, his level 88 he's my mfer and also my dueler, he can summon 16/16 skeletons with 22 reivive, damage for skeleton are 700-800, i use:

leoric
shako
enigma
homu
spiderweb
+3summon ammy with life(depending on char level)
1soj
1bk
trang glove
marrowwalks


his skills are:
20 skele
20 mage
20 skele mastery
1 to all golems
10 to summon resist (every level only adds 1resist after lvl 10)
1 to all curse
1 bone armor
10 Corpse exlosion
1 to all prerequire

it lags alot everytime i tele with full skeles on, so i mostly just name lock on players, he kills wonderfuly exept psn necs... psn necs kill's everything in one hit..also light sorcs kill me too.. :>

[Keitaro]

i have a pvp nec his name is formula-four, his level 88 he's my mfer and also my dueler, he can summon 16/16 skeletons with 22 reivive, damage for skeleton are 700-800, i use:

leoric
shako
enigma
homu
spiderweb
+3summon ammy with life(depending on char level)
1soj
1bk
trang glove
marrowwalks


his skills are:
20 skele
20 mage
20 skele mastery
1 to all golems
10 to summon resist (every level only adds 1resist after lvl 10)
1 to all curse
1 bone armor
10 Corpse exlosion
1 to all prerequire

it lags alot everytime i tele with full skeles on, so i mostly just name lock on players, he kills wonderfuly exept psn necs... psn necs kill's everything in one hit..also light sorcs kill me too.. :>

How much life does your skeletons have and wich lvl are they?

Btw alfzZz...
I was thinking of an improvement for a summoner necro. (PvP)
take 4 skill less in Summon Resist and put 1 point into Spirit.
The Marrowwalk and the skill+ items will boost it so it can do decent dmg.
This will help in PvP, cause i ussually just tele to the target and let the minions do the job. Good support skill maybe? :p

[A|fzZz]

wats the use of the spirit anyway....not gonna use it..