Hand held wars

[[The Reaper]]

Better Games-DS

Better Features-PSP

That's my opinion, I don't have either though and don't plan on getting any unless the price drops to like 100 bucks or less.

[Fykins]

The game I'm really waiting for on the DS is that 2d multiplayer mario game. And the Kirby game is really fun.

[Questor]

Tetris on a palm os device emulating game boy is the shiznit!

[Obfuscate]

ok for the psp i'll i hear is its just better plays dvd and mp3..blah blah blah
psp is stupid ok with the features how long does the psp last ,batt life is crap all on that thing so what if it has the internet thats what my comp is for ,a dvd plyer 4 my dvd and a mp3 for my GOD DAMN music, all that you guys say is you pick the psp for its features that just stupid x-box ,psp, and ps2 should be called comps with there functions and as i have said in console wars nintendo is the last gaming company left , people who buy the GC buys it for the games
the DS is far better i tryied the psp i didnt like it felt weird i had a hard time playing it on a sunny day ,this price is outrageous and its batt life is pathic (dunno if they fixed that but oh well),people are one minded when it comes to gameing consoles ,my friend wont go near a GC saying that its crap compaired to x-box(back on topic)
the ds is better, the touch function, its batt life and its various features, well actually the DS is a handheld N64 , although the games arnt that great at the moment (i'll wait till some good ones come out) ,its chat function is usually nice.
have you guys played a DS
tried it just to see if it was anygood
apperances can be deciveing
(longest post yet.....)

You want to use a touch screen get a palm or axim.

Nintendo the last game company? BULL! Nintendo's whole market share comes from people who are lulled by repetitive characters and childish antics (much like those who watch Via la Bam and the like. I'll get more into this a bit down the road.). I've had a console and handheld since the first nintendo and gameboy and the games people are playing today on GC are the same games I played when I was five in my basement in Boston. Okay they added 3D graphics to mario WHOOPDIE FRIGGIN F'ING DOO mario hasnt changed in over 10yrs! He still jumps on things to kill him!

Nintendo is a disnosaur. They continue to survive because there will always be parents looking for wholesome games for their children because some wack job on TV or in a book says violent games will make your kids psyco murderers/rapists. GC is for the following types of people:

1.) Shielded kids who will be eaten alive when they actually get out of their parents nest and attempt life on their own.

2.) People stuck in the past who cant let go of the 80's and early 90's when Nintendo was in their hay day.

3.) The mentally challenged. What do I mean by that? I mean those who think decent entertainment is reality TV, Punk'd and Viva la Bam. (aka the mentally challenged.) For godsakes people the dry british comedy on PBS is better than that crap!

So why PSP? Because it's multifunctional! I dont know about anyone else but I would rather tote my PSP around for games, movies and music than my cd player, cd's, dvd player and laptop. Okay, it cost $250 but you cant even buy a cheap useless Dell desktop for that much! The cheapest desktop is $299 +tax and the cheapest lappy is $549 +tax and one of those you cant even bring on the plane with you!

The DS does ONE thing and thats it: It plays games for DS THATS IT! It will serve you no other functionality other than playing games much likes it's big brother the GC. So everyone can go flush $150 down the drain for a handheld that once the games gets boring loses its values. At least since I have a PSP even if the games get boring I can still use it as a MP3 player and portable theater.

So show me some multifunctionality in the DS and then I'll change my tune.

P.S. Since I'm already steping on toes I might as well come out and say that Metroid is just as repetative as Mario. Metroid SUCKS!

P.S.S Sega was the most inventive gaming company to date. Total reveloutionaires that never got/get due credit from gamers.

[erizoe]

You want to use a touch screen get a palm or axim.

Nintendo the last game company? BULL! Nintendo's whole market share comes from people who are lulled by repetitive characters and childish antics (much like those who watch Via la Bam and the like. I'll get more into this a bit down the road.). I've had a console and handheld since the first nintendo and gameboy and the games people are playing today on GC are the same games I played when I was five in my basement in Boston. Okay they added 3D graphics to mario WHOOPDIE FRIGGIN F'ING DOO mario hasnt changed in over 10yrs! He still jumps on things to kill him!

It is the last company true to video gaming, all of the others are simulators, think about that because I have too much to type to explain it. I love nintendo, I hate Viva La bam, and anything on empty-V, or any reality, heck, I don;t even watch T.V. The reason why Nintendo makes a series and stays true to them is because people love them. Here is a quote from IGN.com a gaming site, on a review of the GCN "More than 129 million Pokemon-branded games have sold to date -- a figure that only Mario himself, with 175 million units sold, has been able to best.

Nintendo is a disnosaur. They continue to survive because there will always be parents looking for wholesome games for their children because some wack job on TV or in a book says violent games will make your kids psyco murderers/rapists. GC is for the following types of people:

1.) Shielded kids who will be eaten alive when they actually get out of their parents nest and attempt life on their own.

2.) People stuck in the past who cant let go of the 80's and early 90's when Nintendo was in their hay day.

3.) The mentally challenged. What do I mean by that? I mean those who think decent entertainment is reality TV, Punk'd and Viva la Bam. (aka the mentally challenged.) For godsakes people the dry british comedy on PBS is better than that crap!

1.) not true, I know plenty of people with overprotective parents who buy them ps2 and xbox, spongebob games, there is no spongebob or lizzy mguire shit involved with the nintendo company
2.) Not true also, half of nintendos audience is younger kids, because the games are easier to master, I don;t think it is possible for a 14 year old kid to be stuck in the 80's these days...
3.) Mentally challanged...nice choice of words, you could have said something like "tool of the media" I know tons of mentally challanged people from coaching special olympics, and maybe 10 percent of them have the capability to play a video game, every single one of them likes the xbox, why? because it is the most marketed and most trendy one (where I live anyways)
Speaking of xbox being the most marketed, don;t you think the reality tv fans, (the ones who get feed trend information with a funnel right out of the tv) would like the more trendy/marketed toy or the one that less people have and isn't marketed as much.

So why PSP? Because it's multifunctional! I dont know about anyone else but I would rather tote my PSP around for games, movies and music than my cd player, cd's, dvd player and laptop. Okay, it cost $250 but you cant even buy a cheap useless Dell desktop for that much! The cheapest desktop is $299 +tax and the cheapest lappy is $549 +tax and one of those you cant even bring on the plane with you!

I have a reason why, http://www.compusa.com/products/product_...6&pfp=cat3
compared to
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_...pfp=BROWSE
100 dollars less, with that 120 dollars you can easily buy and MP3 player with much more than a gig, the trade off (maybe 40 dollars AT MOST) is so much more worth it. ds is better gaming and interaction, mp3 player is more music than the psp+ who the f*ck watched movies on their psp? You could only fit one movie on it.

The DS does ONE thing and thats it: It plays games for DS THATS IT! It will serve you no other functionality other than playing games much likes it's big brother the GC. So everyone can go flush $150 down the drain for a handheld that once the games gets boring loses its values. At least since I have a PSP even if the games get boring I can still use it as a MP3 player and portable theater.

once again, the portable theature, pfft, one movie and a couple songs. you aren;t going to want to carry around you'r psp to listen to music, you are going to want something with more space if you are like me at all. + it is 139...as apposed to flushing 249

P.S. Since I'm already steping on toes I might as well come out and say that Metroid is just as repetative as Mario. Metroid SUCKS!

Agreed, but mario is damn sweet

P.S.S Sega was the most inventive gaming company to date. Total reveloutionaires that never got/get due credit from gamers.

Agreed, but I disagree with the ending, Everyone loves sonic, I know there are other games, but people love sega because of sonic, don;t tell me they aren;t doing well. Sega now sells their games to, you know who, NINTENDO

[Aemaeth]

Simulations? bullshit.
What about the stories in games, i mean seriously, the whole point to these games is that you can do things in the game that you cant in real life, that isn't simulation.

[erizoe]

Point taken, and agreed, I phrased myself wrong.
What I mean by simulation machines is they are meant to be relistic, there will never be a grand theft mario kart, or a Fable style Zelda.
If you want video gaming, nintendo stays truest to the deffinition.
^a stupid argument that I am going to drop after I post this.

Wow, I am surprised oresama/*****/coma/abbi/scott only had 1 problem with my post. =P

PS You change you'r name almost as much as you'r hair.

[MasterOfPuppets]

Erizoe, i live like 3 hrs away from you. Lol.
Ok...
...PSP, normal people would say its better then any other handhelds atm for all of its use, functionality etc. Who wouldn't? even if battery life is a problem.. (I Dont have one yet but) If it uses batteries, then carry a few extra batteries. I read that the PSP battery life is 2-3hrs... heres a link Go buy an 8hr extension battery pack for 19$. Honestly,
The PSP is very innovational product, as to nintendo's new handhald semi-innovational DS... they added a touch screen.... yay...
PSP is also sony's first handheld console gaming device, pretty damn good too
Nintendo is goodish n stuff, but I'm goin PSP all the way
But, all the nintendo fanboys totally disagree.

[Obfuscate]

My argument still stands: What does DS do other than play games? NOTHING! Thats the problem, we no longer live in a world where single use devices are necessary. Techonolgy has evolved and gotten a lot better and a lot smaller. When DS hit the market the first thing I thought was "Did we just jump back 10yrs?".

Nintendo is a dinosaur bottom line. People WANT simulator!s Thats why they sell so damn good. People want to be able to safely live out their wacked fantasies without fear of pursecution and they find that sanctuary in simulators not in Mario or Sonic (BTW there were alot of better games than just Sonic that came out for genesis).

Sega only failed because playstation mastered cd technology before they could. If sega had perfected cd tech faster playstation wouldn't of had a chance and we would all probably be playing on a sega console instead of a PS2 and PSP. I'm convinced that if Sega-CD hadn't been so buggy and got such bad reviews because of that then Sega would have been more motivated to move forward with cd tech. But much like Nintendo they got stuck in cart tech and hence suffered greatly.

BTW PSP movies come in UMD format and thus I can take 5 movies and a few games with me and be set since I can put songs on the mem stick, which I can easily carry more than one of seeing how they are so small. I end up carrying one 1'x1' box while others tote multiple devices to achive the same amount of entertainment and realistically spend the same amount I did doing so if not more.

I have a PSP and I usually get more like 4-5hrs of gaming from it than 2-3hrs. I think some of the very first ones that shipped had defective batteries or something. That or they didnt wait the alloted original charge time to use it.

[Tribal1177]

I don't mess with these handhelds, but the topic seems to have strayed...

Nintendo advocates will talk until they are blue in the face about the staying power of nintendo. If atari had been a bit faster on the uptake, and gotten past being the creators of at home gaming consoles to begin with, they would be the "old man", and you'd be calling mario "that guy from pitfall".

Playstation has advocates of it's own.... the company is willing to get titles leased/sold to them from competitors, another new standard among gaming... you never played Bonk (Turbografix 16) or Sonic the Hedgehog on your original nintendo.. Because they were competitors.

Now, you can get GTA on different stations, but PS has the right idea to get it out first, and way before the other guys. It's what makes them stay ahead.

Microsoft is a whole different era of ****y... because they are creating games with more power. Fable, Halo... you can't get these games anywhere else but on a PC. They are just new to the game, so anyone older than ... ten years old is probably going to advocate what they grew up on.

Don't judge just because you're biased... the industry follows itself, and all of these guys will have products out that can compete, until they go under. Then a new giant will immerge, and try for their fifteen minutes of fame.

[Obfuscate]

I think atari was just stuck in general at the time. Technology then was just moving to slow for a console gaming company to thrive for an extended period of time. Remember the high speed of technology growth really started in the 90's not the 80's. They where in the right place at the wrong time is all.

[Aemaeth]

Point taken, and agreed, I phrased myself wrong.
What I mean by simulation machines is they are meant to be relistic, there will never be a grand theft mario kart, or a Fable style Zelda.
If you want video gaming, nintendo stays truest to the deffinition.
^a stupid argument that I am going to drop after I post this.

Wow, I am surprised oresama/*****/coma/abbi/scott only had 1 problem with my post. =P

PS You change you'r name almost as much as you'r hair.

im sorry but can you actualy see a gta game with mario style graphics? No. If you want to start calling all those games intended for children as the only true games you need to go back to Nursery.

[Obfuscate]

im sorry but can you actualy see a gta game with mario style graphics? No. If you want to start calling all those games intended for children as the only true games you need to go back to Nursery.

*has visions of GTA people jumping on each others heads* LOL!!! Oh god that was funny!

[Tribal1177]

I think atari was just stuck in general at the time. Technology then was just moving to slow for a console gaming company to thrive for an extended period of time. Remember the high speed of technology growth really started in the 90's not the 80's. They where in the right place at the wrong time is all.

Atari was in the right place at the wrong time, but the actual graphic quality nintendo has was a matter of smaller squares... i believe (i'm not on the board, so i could be very, very wrong) they weren't afraid of the "newcomers" to the scene. Then they were to far behind and probably feared releasing a new console that all the old items would be incompatible with.. the market was untouched except for the commdore, so they had no idea what would happen.

As for a fable styled zelda, oresama, be careful what you wish for... nintendo games are very one way, the hero has to win, AND be a good guy doing it. That's because they have become a monolith in their own right, and have standards to live up too. All the soccer mom's would be up in an uproar (my little half sister wouldn't have a gamecube if it wasn't family friendly).

You can argue for whatever system you like, they all have their points, and the reason they do stretches back to our freedom of speech.... some companies will fill the walmart market (no curses on their cd's, and no nudity... they disagree with freedom of speech, if you shop walmart, funk you!) that's the nintendo area. PS goes for the edgy stuff, GTA is a perfect example, and microsoft is just trying to top the market with their billions of dollars worth of "ability" to do so.

[Obfuscate]

Edgy? Have you played God of War for PS2? The games just out and out walking off the cliff with its cut scenes.

BTW those "squares" are called pixels.

[ZxSlippy191]

The PSP > Nintendo DS.. Lmfao, Nintendo DS has NINTENDOGS!!!111111111111111111, and the PSP has Tony Hawk, and can play DVD's.. you can play MP3's.. and even more with the Patch 2.1, with patch 2.1 on the PSP you can surf on a web browser (Firefox or Internet Explorer) if you have a router and a DSL/Cable/Sattelite/Not Dial up connection.

[slimp]

this is stupid, nintendo DS does not have enuf games Out to be even close to psp, psp is the leader in gaming, for handheld... only because of the dvds and music, and then web browser, There are no good games on it...atleast no good games i have played, But it is worth the buy to have a hanheld computer/ps2.... nintendo DS is just ..... nintedo.. GC with out any games ? heh. pSp all the way. srry if that was a dumb comment its almost 2am and im tired, I just cant sleep.

[Aemaeth]

this is stupid, nintendo DS does not have enuf games Out to be even close to psp, psp is the leader in gaming, for handheld... only because of the dvds and music, and then web browser, There are no good games on it...atleast no good games i have played, But it is worth the buy to have a hanheld computer/ps2.... nintendo DS is just ..... nintedo.. GC with out any games ? heh. pSp all the way. srry if that was a dumb comment its almost 2am and im tired, I just cant sleep.

the only good psp game ive played is the burnout one.

[ZxSlippy191]

Get the new Need for Speed for the PSP, or maybe some Tony Hawk? The PSP games PwN you. >_<

[Aemaeth]

tony hawk...blech...
i hate those games.
and im not realy a fan of racing games. only like burnout because of crash mode.