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Quote: At 18 each and every one of you better be enlisted in one branch of the armed services or another because the freedom you have now and will have then will be because of those who served before you and if you have any sense of honor you will repay them by serving the country and protecting the freedoms you so love and take advantage of on a regular basis
While I don't disagree with this wholeheartedly Sinner, I do have to say that is almost Korean in viewpoint.
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Sinner Wrote:I did have a whole lot of flamming for each and every one of you but I erased all that because it would not change your minds. Instead I very little to say and then I'm done.
1.) Remember WWII? How we waited so long to go help destroy Hitler? How many people were burtally killed and/or maimed beyond belief because of that? Well kiddies history has a way of repeating itself if steps are not taken to prevent it from doing so it would have except this time in America. And THAT is what this war is for. Its not to satisfy the blood lust of some war monger. Its to ensure peace and prosperity for the generations ahead. Sure some mistakes have been but by god by golly the next generation of Americans will be a hell of a lot safer and better off for what Bush is doing now.
2.) When each and every one of you turns 18 I better see each of you registered to vote and voting in EVERY election
3.) At 18 each and every one of you better be enlisted in one branch of the armed services or another because the freedom you have now and will have then will be because of those who served before you and if you have any sense of honor you will repay them by serving the country and protecting the freedoms you so love and take advantage of on a regular basis.
4.) Sure the value of the dollar is going down and oil prices are rising but both are good things. Why? Because with the value of the dollar droping and continuing to we will eventually be forced to move to the euro which will furthur solidify the world economy. The more things that tether us and foreign nations together the more likely each will rush to the others aid. If one link in a chain goes bad the whole chain becomes useless.
With the rise of gas prices new fuel technology, long under funded and researched, will finally be brought to the fore front and the green earth we have today will be presereved for thousands more years because of the enviromentally friendly qualities of those fuels
BTW the next of you who complains about Bush being a bad public speaker and thus being a bad president gets negative rep. Its the most foolish arguement ever concieved and has no place in an intelligent conversation.
i agree wholeheartedly
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DracoNéitAnubis Wrote:While I don't disagree with this wholeheartedly Sinner, I do have to say that is almost Korean in viewpoint.
I don't care much what nationalistic view it is. The bottom line is that all these Bush haters who run around screaming how horrible he is will owe to HIM for still being able to enjoy the freedoms we do today. But most of all they will owe to the brave men and women who FOUGHT for those freedoms.
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snoboy Wrote:and wat i find even funnier is they have iq ratings of presidents and bush is lowest on iq and his father is 2nd lowest. clinton was by far top, well w/e i sitll say 911 was bush's fault This might be the single dumbest comment I have ever read. If you kept reading on, snoboy, you would have learned that anyone who considered these statistics to be legitimate would be shipped off to some remote island full of timed explosive devices and no way off....I guess I'll be missing you.
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whats the big woop..its his opinion man christlet him think what he wants...its not hurting you. and no everyone should not be enrolled in the army...its a choice its called america FREEEEDOMMM.... and we would not have ever been in this whole deal if bush would have done somthing so nobody would be over der and we would all be all happy and content...
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Because Forgotten, those statistics are just plain wrong.
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Forgoten_ChildX Wrote:whats the big woop..its his opinion man christlet him think what he wants...its not hurting you. and no everyone should not be enrolled in the army...its a choice its called america FREEEEDOMMM.... and we would not have ever been in this whole deal if bush would have done somthing so nobody would be over der and we would all be all happy and content...
LOL! Your deaf, dumb and blind all at once. Its people like you who continue to FORCE American presidents to make the hard choices like whether or not to go to war. Your so content in your little opaque bubble you can't see the danger that lurks before you. Every American will have you to personally thank when hundreds more people die on American soil due to terrorist attack. Why? Because of tree hugging ignorance that the world is a big happy place as long as everyone just stays away from everyone else. You make me physically ill just by the sheer fact you live in this great country called America and you are not even willing to stand up and FIGHT for it.
I really hope some day all of you Bush haters wake up one morning and say "HOLY SHIT! Bush saved my *** and everyone else's because of what he did!"
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wow ok i want you guys to help me here i thought we were after Osama not Hussein well i know saddam is a horriable person but wtf we were after Osama for the terroist not saddam and another thing what has bush done good for us WHAT made our country go into dept i got a freind that just came back from iraq he is messed up right now cause he killed alot of ppl well and another thing were are the weapons of mass destruction that is the reason we are doing this i think bush said himself " We could not find the mass weapons of destruction" and i just wanted you to think about it
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Faith's Demon Wrote:wow ok i want you guys to help me here i thought we were after Osama not Hussein well i know saddam is a horriable person but wtf we were after Osama for the terroist not saddam and another thing what has bush done good for us WHAT made our country go into dept i got a freind that just came back from iraq he is messed up right now cause he killed alot of ppl well and another thing were are the weapons of mass destruction that is the reason we are doing this i think bush said himself " We could not find the mass weapons of destruction" and i just wanted you to think about it
We are still actively looking for Osama. The most powerful and elusive terrorist of our time and you think he was just going to come walking up to our front door. BAH!
You wanted a pyschotic dictator like Saddam to stay in power? I really hope that whole thing reguarding Saddam was a late April fools joke.
Your friend made a CHOICE to WILLINGLY join the armed forces. Some people can handle the mental stress of killing people, enemies or not, and others can not. Tell your friend he has my eternal gratitude for serving and protecting our country. You should do the same Faith. You owe your freedom to your friend.
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lol well i know osama is not gonna come out but i do not see as many troops over in afganstan as i do in iraq
No i don't want saddam in control but did it have to cost this many of our mens lives for one he did not have the weapons and two he did he was causing us no harm
OOOOO and my freind well lets see if you really wanna **** me off HE DID NOT SIGN UP FOR IT. it is like the draft thing kinda. he did not wanna go he got sent there cause of our stupid presdient i think he is the most retard of all. i know all presidents are stupid but this one he really is gay and his dad too
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There is no draft in effect, do you maybe mean he was in reserve forces? If so he still ****ing signed up for it.
Another thing Bush didn't put us into debt we have slowly fallen into debt over the past 11 years my friend. There are many others who can be blamed for that including Bush I guess, but i've also seen him make some good choices, granted you should realise that the President doesent make all these decisions on his own there are about 3 different branches you have to go through at any given time to gain approval.
To be honest I dislike Bush, but that is for a reason completely different from all of these other people here. I disliked Clinton to so don't start calling me a Clinton lover.
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Remember kids you can not occupy a country with missels and satelites or even remote controlled tanks. BTW actually "catching" Saddam cost alot less lives than it has making sure some fanatical religous group does not take over. Right now we are in Iraq trying to make sure all these nut balls with guns in fanatical groups dont blow it all to hell.
There is NO draft. Yes we are activating MANY of our reserve forces but hay they knew when they signed up that could happen. Dont blame Bush because your friend signed up for the reserves and then actually had to do something.
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well as you should know i am american, and i do respect the men/women who are over there...because geuss what???my uncle is overder, and no i will not sign up for the army its not my thing, but i am not just looking out of my little damn buble... really its not a hard choice...all he had to do is when he got the warnings maybe...say somthing???no lets just wait for the attacks while the rest of america sits here blindly then one day BAM BAM BAM!!! wow our lives have just changed forever...im not saying that announcing this to amreical would be right either because we would all go into a panic...but i mean cmon we could just"BOMB" the S*** out of afganies and iraqis???...no .... its not really ingonarce on my part either its bushes... we were not this far indebt befor this and ye si no the war has really sunk us into debt but still i mean he can and still could do things alot smarter. as for our troops they probably will not be home for 5 years or more...knowing my uncle will be home in2-3yrs it doesnt look like the war is going to end any sooner so we will yet go further into debt.
cant make you ill because im not neer you*sigh infadel
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GOOD GOD! Is everyone here worried about debt? We have over 23trillion in total assets and have borrowed FAR under that. If you wanna talk about debt lets talk about Kerry's grand idea for socialized medical care. Do you have any clue what that would have cost us? Not only tax increases galore but it would have sent the national defict(SP?) soaring far beyond what it is now. Then he would have pulled most if not all of the troops out of the middle east, effectively wasting billions in man hours. So we can talk money if you want but the other choice, Kerry, was going to spend your money far faster and far less wiser than Bush is now.
And again you cant win a war and occupy a country with missels, satelites and remoted controlled tanks. It takes people! Human beings! We shot missels at all sorts of people in the Clinton administration and what did it do? NOTHING! What has Bush done with this war? Rid the world of one heartless dictator, sent a known and deadly terrorist into hiding and helped bring two other countries to democracy and there is soon to be a third with Egypt. I would like to see that happen with missels but I wont because you CAN NOT DO IT. Fire a few nukes you say? LOL! What and start a nuclear holicaust? [sarcasam] Great idea! [/sarcasam] Even though I would love to see it happen its just not a fesible option.
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funny thing is i never said i liked kerry and clinton did have us money we were not in dept but then agian i don't like clinton i hate presdients goto hell.
o so lets see hmmm ever thought of the terry schavio thing look at her the damn president did not do one thing about that they sit there and do all kinds of shit we are just like saddam killing our own people when they are alive DUHHH look at it we are no better then him we have people killing others on the street just like them then we got twisted cops the US IS A CRUEL PLACE but hey if for some reason bush saves me and i will thx him but what i would really like to see is bush take his daughters and put them in the war like we are with our children or better yet put him in the army let him fight his own war
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Faith that was quite possibly the stupidest thing I ever heard.
Forgoten we were warned about an attack on the World Trade centers in 1998, we did nothing about it, if you don't believe me go look it up online.
Sinner is ****ing correct, to launch nuclear weapons would throw the world into cataclysm, dunno about you, but I still like living.
As for debt. It started a long time ago and was just augmented after 9/11, if you think about it it was a very intelligent place to attack just look at the names of them "The World Trade centers".
7 Month's ago a military bill was passed to replace 25,000 and possibly more troops back the the U.S. why? Because were replacing them with Stryker unit's quite possibly one of the most effectice military machines since the Jeep in WWII.
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Faith's Demon Wrote:funny thing is i never said i liked kerry and clinton did have us money we were not in dept but then agian i don't like clinton i hate presdients goto hell.
o so lets see hmmm ever thought of the terry schavio thing look at her the damn president did not do one thing about that they sit there and do all kinds of shit we are just like saddam killing our own people when they are alive DUHHH look at it we are no better then him we have people killing others on the street just like them then we got twisted cops the US IS A CRUEL PLACE but hey if for some reason bush saves me and i will thx him but what i would really like to see is bush take his daughters and put them in the war like we are with our children or better yet put him in the army let him fight his own war
There is system of checks and balances to ensure that no single branch has more authority than the other. In the case of Terry Schavio(SP?) the president did try and get a law passed that would save her life but congress voted against it. Rightly so to. The courts ruled the state law unconstitutional and would have ruled the national law the same.
I really hope you sit down and do some research as to what kind of horrors Sadam and his sons brought upon the people they killed before you go and compare Bush to Sadam.
On a side note please take the time to use punctuation. I had to re-read your post about ten times before it all made sense, what little sense if any it made.
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hey all the troops that come back...geuss what none of them are my uncle...and sony jim is right if bush wants to send kids that he dont even care about over there to get killed, he should enroll his daughters in military...then he sees how rest of america feels...im sick of all his damn speeches we are here for you blah blah blah its all hollow empty words he know nothing about how it feels
and yes debt is a big thing still...the neucular idea not like im for serious for christ sakes it would be a huge upset even for us the nuecular waves travel for ever...would wipe out like the whole damn place over der so its out of the question i geuss
*G EUSS WHAT EVERYONE???I GOT A 3.167 on my REPORT CAR HURAH
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Forgoten_ChildX Wrote:hey all the troops that come back...geuss what none of them are my uncle...and sony jim is right if bush wants to send kids that he dont even care about over there to get killed, he should enroll his daughters in military...then he sees how rest of america feels...im sick of all his damn speeches we are here for you blah blah blah its all hollow empty words he know nothing about how it feels
and yes debt is a big thing still...the neucular idea not like im for serious for christ sakes it would be a huge upset even for us the nuecular waves travel for ever...would wipe out like the whole damn place over der so its out of the question i geuss
*G EUSS WHAT EVERYONE???I GOT A 3.167 on my REPORT CAR HURAH
*sighs* I've argued your points over and over again. I'm not going to continue to repeat myself. Obviously your only real qualm is that your uncle is over in Iraq. Well boo freaking hoo! I've got more friends and family over there then you have fingers and toes and you dont see me running around crying about it. Hell I'm actually proud they decided to go and fight for our country. As far as I'm concered your a selfish little b!tch who thinks that the freedoms he enjoys come at no cost.
...your as bad as that bed wetting panzy Beefy who came in here and cried his eyes all over the place about how his father was killed in 9/11 and then doesnt even want to get the bastards who did it. Hows that for honoring his father huh? I'll just chalk you up as another unpatriotic swine who doesnt deserve to live in this country.
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Sinner Wrote:...your as bad as that bed wetting panzy Beefy who came in here and cried his eyes all over the place about how his father was killed in 9/11 and then doesnt even want to get the bastards who did it. Hows that for honoring his father huh? I'll just chalk you up as another unpatriotic swine who doesnt deserve to live in this country. Sinner, I think you are getting a little out of hand on this issue. This is not flame wars as well so please respect that. As for Beefy or anyone else, you can't change them so stop trying to.
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