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"We love because he first loved us. If anyone says, I love God, yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love god, whom he has not seen."
John 4:19-20
Chew on that one fanatics.
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zerokool Wrote:Well, that is very well in your opinion, but how would you feel if they, hmmm...."flaunting", it in front of you all of the time?
i'm fine with that if it is jokingly or if they were not aware of my orientation in which i would enlighten them. what is your response? fear? disgust?
do you have any reason beyond the irrational to believe that homosexuality is wrong?
of course, by irrational i mean listening to the homophobic words of your family, friends, religious leader, etc...
i have seen no evidence against homosexuality. the only one that even gets close to qualifying as evidence is the theory that if everyone was homosexual then the future of the race is gone. here's my answer. if everyone was straight and mated to produce children, our future will still be gone. government will collapse as billions of people revolt in response to food scarcity because of generations of pure breeding. we then will regress into hunter-gatherer tribes. how's that for the glorious future of a purely heterosexual race that mates because it is the god-given use of sexual organs?
give it up people. you have no rational arguement. nobody even cares anymore. your opinion no longer counts as a real one. it has now been demoted to that of a "wtf is wrong with you?"
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Platinum Wrote:I bet you have NO problems with lesbians though. =/
That is what I always wonder. Why are guys against "gay guys" but think and love the idea of "gay girls"? It really is kindof stupid I think. I don't really agree with the idea of being gay (I don't mind people who are), but it's their choice and if they love someone who is to stop them eh? I heard about the "gay partnership", instead of them getting married. It supposedly gives similiar rights as it would if it were a normal marriage. I am not sure about this so if I'm wrong correct me.
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I dont really like marriage. Manly because it is a religous activity and i do not like religion very much. But why not let them get married? Doesnt every one have equal rights? Its not like they will destroy Christianity by getting married. If people believe that god doesnt like the gays to get married then isnt that they gays problem and shouldnt they decide if God will forgive them or not? They should be able to share there lifes with another if they want.
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i really like how all the anti-gay activists are now using laws designed to protect the oppressed to justify their own irrational hate. it's madness.
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SpoonMan999 Wrote:"We love because he first loved us. If anyone says, I love God, yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love god, whom he has not seen."
John 4:19-20
Chew on that one fanatics.
see that's why i said this:
No, from where I'm standing, we love the gay people, but we hate the fact that because they are having sex with each other, we believe they are going to hell. We love everybody, and we don't want you to go to hell, when there's peace, joy, and love to be had. THAT'S why we fight so hard.
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so you like gays but dont like them having sex thats stupid
if you cant respect there wishes why should they listen?
you can preach that there going to hell but that wont stop them
even if hell was true they be going there together
maybe the church should stop throwing the religion onto others and back off
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uhh who the **** can support a Male on top of a Male? are u guys stupid if i had the chance i would put all u gay ****ers on a island and bomb it I HATE GAY PEOPLE!!!!!!!! fine me offencive i dont care its steam room.. im prety sure someone here doesnt support gays like i do...
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05-10-2006, 06:46 AM
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Your reasons, Please.
Just saying you hate them without a supportive arguement shows your stupidity and ignorance.
But then again you're probably one of those little 15 year olds with bad acne who doesn't like us because you think we'd flirt with you, HAH.
And please don't come out with some stupid ****ing christian based arguement, Ive torn that one to pieces enough times.
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Platinum Wrote:And please don't come out with some stupid ****ing christian based arguement, Ive torn that one to pieces enough times. hmm, if we cant do that.. then what can we say?
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thats almost as bad as Val_Owns...
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Val_Owns33 Wrote:uhh who the **** can support a Male on top of a Male? are u guys stupid if i had the chance i would put all u gay ****ers on a island and bomb it I HATE GAY PEOPLE!!!!!!!! fine me offencive i dont care its steam room.. im prety sure someone here doesnt support gays like i do...
first off do they do that right in front of you , do they flirt with you? and w/e else they do
it's not a problem for normal people who have common sense to strictly base there hate just because its two guys kissing
i bet your the type that hates gay's but would love to watch lesbians
there are FAR FAR worse acts than gays
beastiality (sex with an animal)
necrophelia (sex with the dead)
pedophilasim(if thats the right term)
nudist camps (just wrong when you hit a sertain point)
you dont see pedo priest being shuned or camps
but nooooo the christian faith has to hate just olny gays thats a problem in it self
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The Mob Wrote:hmm, if we cant do that.. then what can we say?
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thats almost as bad as Val_Owns... Fight fire with fire. If you came across predujice due to religion for nearly all of your life you would react the same way, Its a tired and heavily flawed arguement. If you think what i said is almost as bad as what val owns said, Do you expect me to simply sit on the sidelines while everything i am is talked about in such an offensive way? You can also, Say what you like, I was merely stating my opinion on the way this issue is handled by religion, you base hate on the words of a book, Some of you may preach acceptance but underneath your bullshit acceptance, you condemn us, and i cannot stand the hypocrisy.
You base your opinion on a book that may or may not be true, Whats stopping you from forming your own opinion?
The part of the bible that contains the views on homosexuals that most of you adapt as an opinion is utter bullshit anyway, It talks how slavery is accepted if the slave is of different origin, It talks about murder ofskin and other cultures.
And yet you still follow it.
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sigh, there is no point in argueing with you..
i for one do not base everything off of that "book"
i thought this thread had died
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it will die when it does.
If you have an arguement, Use it, Don't try to mask it by saying im ignorant, Thats ****ing stupid.
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So, instead of asking why gays are so right, try asking whats so wrong?
Sure, they have sex with the same gender; I dont know how males can see that as a win / win, as the more dudes rooting other dudes, the more chicks for the rest of them.
So you say its discusting to flaunt? not all gays do it, infact I rarely see it. My gut tells me these gay people decide its the best way to get people thinking about how different males can be from the stereotypical 'norm'. Just ask yourself, if you were in a world full of gays that hate heterosexuals, would you find a girl willing to make out and play in public just to get the world to think differently?
So there is the stereotypical gay, limp wristed drag queen that go to makeover parties. No. I know a few gays, and few of those few are actually feminie. I feel that it is a sterotype that some gays conform to (by choice or otherwise) yet others may well be down-to-earth transexuals.
Religion.... Dont even bother, "Sometimes the bible in the wrong hands, is wose than a bottle of whiskey", In this case yes, the bible contradicts itself so much that its really useless these days. Not to mention how often do you take the right path because god inspires you to? Oh ffs come on the American Government is christian, yet they have a war against weapons?... Anyway, before you go condemming homosexuality by the 'holy' bible, prove its real, then i'll happily go jump of a cliff and burn in hell for my sins.
Homosexuality on TV and movies is highly stereotyped, so you cannot say "OMG I HATE **** THEY SHOULD DIE" - Acne faced teen (Val_Owns33), try meeting one, alot of us dont act ANYTHING like the ones on TV. TV Producers realised that people, although skin deep claim they hate gays, dont really understand them and will want to learn more, thus increasing there ratings.
These days I have noticed that people are afraid and sometimes interested in the unknown, and people usually dont hate gays as much as they pretend to. One of the funnyest things I've found is there are three different types of people
1) Those who are confortable with there sexuality and are not homophobic,
2) Those who are not confortable with there sexuality, and prefer to hate the unknown
3) Those who have been brought up in a homophobic family
Val_Owns33 which are you?
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-I am homosexual
-nothing was intended by describing gender, I'm to lazy to write a variation of (s)he so i just wrote he, think of it as unisex smartass2
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well iono im Christian and Gay and lesbian is not allowed in the bible... cuz there was a city lesbians gays and god like ****ed it over not pushing my religoin just saying wut i have read and tellin u guys why i dont support gays
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Quote:Gay and lesbian is not allowed in the bible
Where in the bible... I doubt youve even read the passages reguarding it...
Quote:cuz there was a city lesbians gays and god like ****ed it over not pushing my religoin
I must have missed this chapter, again please state the passage you are referring to...
If your going to hate gays because the bible says its bad, you'd better not have sex before your married, or look at porn, etc
Personally I dont think youve even read my last post...
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Don't waste your time arguing with and idiot, Just read his posts. It's like arguing with a 4 year old.
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Quote:uhh who the **** can support a Male on top of a Male? are u guys stupid if i had the chance i would put all u gay ****ers on a island and bomb it I HATE GAY PEOPLE!!!!!!!! fine me offencive i dont care its steam room.. im prety sure someone here doesnt support gays like i do...
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Platinum Wrote:Being homosexual is not immoral, and it causes no more harm than being heterosexual does. Thats a overused and stupid way to view it, Sure, Some do flaunt it overly but but to judge a whole people on the actions of a few is ignorant, and only prooves the intteligence of the person who judges so is small.
I may not read the Bible overly much but I do know that it says that God dispises homosexuals, because what they do is sexually immoral.
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